Fish oil: The natural triglyceride form is better

If you have a choice, the triglyceride form of fish oil is preferable. The triglyceride form, i.e., 3 omega-3 fatty acids on a glycerol "backbone," is the form found in the body of fish that protects them from cold temperatures (i.e., they remain liquid at low ambient temperatures).

Most fish oils on the market are the ethyl ester form. This means that the omega-3 fatty acids have been removed from the glycerol backbone; the fatty acids are then reacted with ethanol to form the ethyl ester.

If the form is not specified on your fish oil bottle, it is likely ethyl ester, since the triglyceride form is more costly to process and most manufacturers therefore boast about it. Also, prescription Lovaza--nearly 20 times more costly than the most expensive fish oil triglyceride liquid on a milligram for milligram basis--is the ethyl ester form. That's not even factoring in reduced absorption of ethyl esters compared to triglyceride forms. Remember: FDA approval is not necessarily a stamp of superiority. It just means somebody had the money and ambition to pursue FDA approval. Period.

Taking any kind of fish oil, provided it is not overly oxidized (and thereby yields a smelly fish odor), is better than taking none at all. All fish oil will reduce triglycerides, accelerate clearance of postprandial (after-eating) lipoprotein byproducts of a meal (via activation of lipoprotein lipase), enhance endothelial responsiveness, reduce small LDL particles, and provide a physical stabilizing effect on atherosclerotic plaque.

But if you desire enhanced absorption and potentially lower dose to achieve equivalent RBC omega-3 levels, then triglyceride forms are better.

Here are cut-and-pasted abstracts of two of the studies comparing forms of fish oil.

Bioavailability of marine n-3 fatty acid formulations.

Dyerberg J, Madsen P, Moller JM et al. 
Department of Human Nutrition, Faculty of Life Sciences, University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark.

Abstract

The use of marine n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 PUFA) as supplements has prompted the development of concentrated formulations to overcome compliance problems. The present study compares three concentrated preparations - ethyl esters, free fatty acids and re-esterified triglycerides - with placebo oil in a double-blinded design, and with fish body oil and cod liver oil in single-blinded arms. Seventy-two volunteers were given approximately 3.3g of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) plus docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) daily for 2 weeks. Increases in absolute amounts of EPA and DHA in fasting serum triglycerides, cholesterol esters and phospholipids were examined. Bioavailability of EPA+DHA from re-esterified triglycerides was superior (124%) compared with natural fish oil, whereas the bioavailability from ethyl esters was inferior (73%). Free fatty acid bioavailability (91%) did not differ significantly from natural triglycerides. The stereochemistry of fatty acid in acylglycerols did not influence the bioavailability of EPA and DHA.
(Full text of the Dyerberg et al study made available at the Nordic Naturals website here.)



Eur J Clin Nutr 2010 Nov 10. 

Enhanced increase of omega-3 index in response to long-term n-3 fatty acid supplementation from triacylglycerides versus ethyl esters.

Neubronner J, Schuchardt JP, Kressel G et al. 
Institute of Food Science and Human Nutrition, Leibniz Universität Hannover, Am Kleinen Felde 30, Hannover, Germany.

Abstract

There is a debate currently about whether different chemical forms of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) are absorbed in an identical way. The objective of this study was to investigate the response of the omega-3 index, the percentage of EPA+DHA in red blood cell membranes, to supplementation with two different omega-3 fatty acid (n-3 FA) formulations in humans. The study was conducted as a double-blinded placebo-controlled trial. A total of 150 volunteers was randomly assigned to one of the three groups: (1) fish oil concentrate with EPA+DHA (1.01?g+0.67?g) given as reesterified triacylglycerides (rTAG group); (2) corn oil (placebo group) or (3) fish oil concentrate with EPA+DHA (1.01?g+0.67?g) given as ethyl ester (EE group). Volunteers consumed four gelatine-coated soft capsules daily over a period of six months. The omega-3 index was determined at baseline (t(0)) after three months (t(3)) and at the end of the intervention period (t(6)). The omega-3 index increased significantly in both groups treated with n-3 FAs from baseline to t(3) and t(6) (P < 0.001). The omega-3 index increased to a greater extent in the rTAG group than in the EE group (t(3): 186 versus 161% (P < 0.001); t(6): 197 versus 171% (P < 0.01)). Conclusion: A six-month supplementation of identical doses of EPA+DHA led to a faster and higher increase in the omega-3 index when consumed as triacylglycerides than when consumed as ethyl esters.

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  • Flavia

    2/2/2011 2:05:51 PM |

    Thank you for the heads up! Once I exhaust my fish oil, I will switch to the triglyceride form.

    I wanted to drop by and thank you for scaring the sh*t out of me regarding a high wheat carby diet and atenolol.

    My blood pressure seems to be genetic and quite stubborn, but since taking your advice (plus some supplements) I have been able to lower it from 150/100 to around 128/92 and going down.

    Something I have also noticed...my pulse used to be quite high all the time- Around 80-90 (I am 29). Now it is always in the 60s. Could this be due to the supplements? Or low carb? Is this healthy?

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 2:27:44 PM |

    Which brands do you recommend?
    I can't find where my cotsco fish oil states which type it is?

  • TedHutchinson

    2/2/2011 2:28:02 PM |

    In case anyone else uses Nature's Answer, I've just contacted their customer services who say
    " This product IS the triglyceride form.
    Thank you,
    Ellen Kamhi PhD RN"
    At $14.95 from Iherb 16 fl oz it's good price and tastes fine.
    CODE WAB666 saves $5 off initial IHERB purchase. Maybe cheaper elsewhere but IHerb ship cheap to UK.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/2/2011 3:21:47 PM |

    Hi, Flavia--

    Those are all positive changes, including the drop in heart rate. It reflects a reduction in adrenaline. A reduction in heart rate is a powerful marker for overall health.


    Anon-

    Costco is the ethyl ester. It is a fine brand, just less well absorbed, of course.

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 4:03:36 PM |

    I have some vitamin D gelcaps and they smell like fish. Are these oxidized too?

  • Michael

    2/2/2011 4:19:33 PM |

    You say not "overly oxidized" at one point in the post.  

    I am generally concerned about the fish oil I buy being oxidized.  There is a brand of fermented fish oil which purports to avoid this problem of oxidation with storage.  

    Is it your position that concerns about oxidation are sometimes (or at least mine) are overblown?  Or that the oxidation that occurs with normal storage etc. is acceptable?

  • Jack

    2/2/2011 4:26:08 PM |

    Hi Dr Davis,

    If I eat high omega-3 wild salmon once a week, high omega-3 wild sardines once a week, grass pasture butter with 225mg of naturally occurring omega-3 per serving, and organic eggs that have a bit in there as well, do you think I am getting enough for a healthy ratio? I also take the Green Pastures FLCO and HVBO blend.

    I do not eat ANY vegetable oils, ever. I only use coconut oil and ghee to cook, so my O6 intake has got to be pretty low.

    What are your thoughts on being able to obtain adequate levels of healthy omega-3 from foods where it is naturally occurring?

    Thanks,
    Jack Kronk

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 4:29:17 PM |

    Dr. Davis (or others): Based on what you say, since my fish oil brand is silent on what kind, I'm assuming it's the ethyl ester form.  But, I just wanted to check to see if anyone knows for sure: the brand I've been using is Carlson ("The Very Finest Fish Oil"), liquid form in a bottle - not the capsules.

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 5:01:52 PM |

    I take the Carlson lemon cod liver oil. Is their any disadvantage to this over fish oil?

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 5:13:20 PM |

    What about Krill oil?

  • Flavia

    2/2/2011 6:00:08 PM |

    Dr. Davis said: "Those are all positive changes, including the drop in heart rate. It reflects a reduction in adrenaline."

    No wonder every time I take my BP at Walmart my pulse is higher!!

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 7:01:13 PM |

    Where does krill oil fit into this?

  • Might-o'chondri-AL

    2/2/2011 7:18:24 PM |

    Natural Factors omega-3 is ethyl ester processed form.

  • Lucy

    2/2/2011 7:21:44 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Can you comment on the recommended dose for an ApoE 3/4 like me?  I've been told by a BHL educator not take any, but I don't like the idea of that.  I was thinking I may try just 500-600mg/day.  Of course, I've been using Kirkland's which apparently is less bioavailable anyway...

  • Vin Kutty

    2/2/2011 10:53:27 PM |

    As a nutritionist who's worked in the fish oil industry for 20+ years, I may be able to add some insight.

    Yes, Triglyceride (TG) and Re-esterified triglyceride (rTG) forms are better absorbed than the Ethyl Ester form (EE). At least in the short term. And the Phospholipid (PL) form is roughly 50% better absorbed than rTG.

    Then why don't we all take PL form found in Krill oil? Well, there isnt much Omega-3 in Krill to begin with. And the PL-bound Krill Omega-3 are very temperature sensitive, so you won't see anyone concentrating it.

    BTW, the folks at Neptune Krill Oil have some unpublished data that shows the difference between TG and EE diminishes to insignificance over time.

    TG form is natural, no need for pre-conversion before absorption. That does not mean that your body won't use EE. It will. Just requires another step. It's just that TRUE natural TG is not very concentrated. Usually about 30% Omega-3 or so. Anything above 50% is likely to be EE. But most EU nations only allow TG form, so if you want a concentrated fish oil, you jack it up to 60 or 70% as EE and then re-esterify it. Additional process and can be done, but it will cost you. I'm currently working with some 90% rTG material. This raw material is 10 to 20X more expensive than what goes into Walmart brand fish oil.

    I'm guessing (but it's a good guess) but more than 95% of fish oil studies are done on EE form. So all the benefits you've read about don't go out the window if you are taking EE instead of TG. Forget Lovaza, next-gen EPA-based drugs like Epadel, Epanova and still-pending AMR-101 are all EE.

    Most fish oils, if not all, sold at retail stores are EE. Because it is cheaper. Specialty and online sources are your best bet for TG and rTG.  Go to 3rd party testing IFOS website and look under product type - it will tell you if it is EE or TG. http://www.ifosprogram.com/ifos/consumerreport.aspx

    Issues with the Dyerberg study: 1) 2 weeks is way too short a duration to figure this out. 2) they did not compare TG oil to a placebo (corn oil?). Instead, they compared it to EE. Comparison to placebo would have put things in perspective. The Neubronner paper addresses this issue.

  • Anonymous

    2/2/2011 11:19:46 PM |

    As I understand it, part of the tradeoff involves potency and how much EPA/DHA you can pack into a capsule. Ethyl esters are going to be more "compact" than trigylceride chains. I take Life Extension brand, and I honestly don't know which form it is. Perhaps it is the ester form. I get 3600 mg of combined Omega 3 activity from six capsules a day. If the trigyleride form would mean 10 or 12, I don't know that the trade is worth it in money or hassle. I know some of these other brands like Pharmax are supposed to be good, but I draw the line at doing "shots" of unencapsulated fish oil!

    As an aside, does anyone have any suggestions for me? I'm 40, pretty close to ideal weight, non diabetic and I still struggle with high TG, now 292 even with fish oil and 1 gram a day of IR niacin... Not a big wheat eater either although I do have a nasty breakfast cereal habit.

  • Ned Kock

    2/2/2011 11:40:30 PM |

    It is worth noting that as little as 38 g of sardines provide more "net" O3, of the "good" type, than 2 fish oil softgels: bit.ly/gsaJI3.

  • Anonymous

    2/3/2011 1:00:28 AM |

    Dr Davis

    do you know which is the best KOsher fish oil?
    most of brands have vegetarian capsules, but there is a liquid one from Nutri-supreme research

  • Davide Palmer

    2/3/2011 3:21:31 AM |

    Thank you, thank you. At least there are some honest doctors (as Dr. Davis) who are not robots and don't view the FDA's stamp of approval as divinely authoritative and perfect.

  • Rick

    2/3/2011 3:53:04 AM |

    Just to check: Are triglyceride forms always in bottles? Or can we also get them in capsules?

  • Anonymous

    2/3/2011 5:02:07 AM |

    While exploring this subject I came upon this article which clearly expands on the difference between TG and EE fish oil forms.

    http://www.ascentahealth.com/health-science/science-articles/fish-oil-triglycerides-vs-ethyl-esters-as-nature-intended

  • Donald Kjellberg

    2/3/2011 6:09:27 AM |

    Rick said...
    "Just to check: Are triglyceride forms always in bottles? Or can we also get them in capsules?"

    To say it lightly, I prefer to get them off the back of my fish like wild caught salmon but especially with sardines like Ned referred to since the mercury content is extremely low to nonexistent.

    Also, it may be more beneficial consuming supplements naturally in whole foods, if you can get enough. That in itself is not an easy endeavor. Don't get me wrong, I do take my fish oil capsules especially when consuming high 6:3 ratio foods but am trying to incorporate more nutrient dense foods that contain known rich supplement content.

    It would be nice to see more research addressing synergistic effects of nutrients in foods like Dr. Price's findings regarding fermented cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/3/2011 3:02:12 PM |

    Hi, Jack--

    No, not even close.

    It also depends on why you take fish oil and/or obtain omega-3 fatty acids and whether or not you have coronary atherosclerotic plaque, among other things.

  • Jack

    2/3/2011 3:16:28 PM |

    The only brand of canned salmon/tuna and canned sardines I eat is from Wild Planet. I am not affiliated with them and this is not an advertisement, but they really seem to do the whole process perfectly. They also do not add any vegetable oil or water. They have very low mercury content and very high natural omega-3 content. The omega-3 in their tuna is even higher than the salmon. Also, they explain the importance of low mercury and how it all works.

    Have a look at their site:

    Wild Planet

    cheers,
    Jack Kronk

  • Davide Palmer

    2/3/2011 4:34:05 PM |

    I often wonder if krill oil is an even more superior source of DHA and EPA simply because they come within the matrix of phospholipids. Phospholipids, of course, are what makes up our cell membranes, making krill oil extremely bio-available to the cells. I guess we will have to wait for tests to confirm.

  • Sara

    2/3/2011 7:11:36 PM |

    The triglyceride form is too expensive for me.
    I'll pop an add'l ethyl ester gelcap daily and be done with it.

  • Rick

    2/3/2011 10:06:10 PM |

    Does the same caveat apply to krill oil or to seal oil?

  • Anonymous

    2/4/2011 1:35:33 PM |

    Great Detailed discussion of fish oil
    Can someone please dumb it down for me and just recommend a few brands?

  • John Townsend

    2/4/2011 7:17:46 PM |

    Dr. Davis:

    I'm curious to know where GNC's so-called "Triple Strength Fish Oil"
    product ranks. It comes in a softgel form, each capsule containing EPA+DHA strength of 900mg. It has only a slight hint of fishy-ness in taste. It's not clear to me from the bottle label whether it's in a triglyceride form. I'm not necessarily an advocate of GNC products which are not generally a bargain by any means, but have been satisfied with their quality.

  • Timothy Johanek

    2/5/2011 3:24:53 PM |

    I am a Technical Representative from Carlson and the following fish oils are all TG or rTG form:

    -EPA Gems

    -Super DHA Gems

    -MedOmega Fish Oil 2800

    -All Mothers and Kids products

    -All Very Finest Fish Oil products

    -All Cod Liver Oil products

    -All Salmon Oil products

    -Smart Catch softgels

    -CalaOmega liquid (calamari oil)


    The following products are EE:

    -Super Omega-3 Gems

    -Elite Omega-3 Gems

    -CalaOmega Softgels (calamari oil)

    -CalaDHA Sofgels (calamari oil)

  • Anonymous

    2/6/2011 2:08:07 PM |

    "struggle with high TG, now 292 even with fish oil and 1 gram a day of IR niacin... "

    1grm just is not high enough in my opinion.  I take 2grms of Now brand Niacin and had a 30% reduction in my Trigs. At C$7 for 100 x 500mg tablets it is a cheap treatment. somewhere between 2-3grms is the level required but you can check studies at www.lipidsonline.org.

    btw.  just wanted to announce that my latest HDL is 50 !  I started with a reading of 28 and had been on a low fat no meat diet for years. Added meat, reduced wheat and other grains over the last 6 months. I guess I am a convert.
    Trevor

  • omega3tron

    2/6/2011 7:28:10 PM |

    It is nothing more than just another market gimmick -

    http://www.doctormurray.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52:the-ethyl-ester-vs-triglyceride-form-of-fish-oils

  • Bob Savage

    2/6/2011 7:59:46 PM |

    Timothy Johanek,  Do you have any reference to independent test that proof Carlson's products in TG/rTG form?

  • Anonymous

    2/7/2011 5:31:15 PM |

    I'm also interested if Dr. Davis can comment here or in one of his articles about the proper dosing for Apo 3/4 people.

    I do notice that lowish doses (1 g or less) doesn't seem to affect my LDL much negatively. However, if I go high, say 3g EPA/DHA or so, then my LDL tends to rise... and it's not the particle size thing giving a false high reading, as it's measured by VAP.

    Somewhat oddly, I have noticed that the EE form causes this rise more often than the TG form, but that could be coincidence.

    And for those interested:

    Barleans (orange, low dose): TG
    (high dose): EE
    Minami (EE, except for MarineEPA)
    Nordic Naturals: rTG
    Meg3: Can be either, but unless specified, it's EE
    Epax: rTG
    Carlson has both forms, as mentioned here
    Coromega (rTG Epax oil (I think))
    Natural Factors: EE

    And pretty much all cheapo store brands are EE.

    Krill oil does absorb better than fish oil, as found in a recent study. However, it's like a 50% or so improvement only (at best), and due to price differences between fish/krill, it doesn't make much economical sense. If the esterified astaxanthin provides a specific benefit, then maybe it's worth it... but no data showing it's the EPA/DHA in krill.

  • Weierstrass

    2/9/2011 5:01:13 AM |

    That's good news on the Carlson's. I really don't understand why anyone uses fish oil capsules. You get a much better deal with the fish oil in bottles; I order mine online, 4 or 5 bottles at a time.

  • Anonymous

    2/9/2011 1:09:17 PM |

    Which brands of Fish Oils doesn't use Soy Bean oil?

  • Timothy Johanek

    2/9/2011 10:46:31 PM |

    Bob Savage,

    I'm not aware of any third party tests that have been done.  I am certain that I am correct though because I write the spec sheets.

    A quick test to see whether an oil is EE or not is to put it on polystyrene (styrofoam) because EE will dissolve it but TG will not.  And before anyone gets nervous, this has nothing to do with how EE oils affect your body (unless you eat or are made of styrofoam that is).

  • farseas

    2/21/2011 6:29:36 PM |

    Hi readers.  With all this talk about O3 and fish oil I thought that I would chime in with my experience.  I had a heart attack about 1.5 years ago and got a stent placed in one of my arteries.

    Since then I have been taking Walmart fish oil because it was so cheap.  My chest pains gradually receded after my heart attack and I was doing really great for awhile.  I was actually working pretty hard, doing aerobics for about 30 minutes and lifting weights for about 20 minutes.  My weight on a low carb diet went from 305 to 260 so far.

    I have been on Plavix but my cardiologist told me I could back off from it slowly, so I started taking 6 capsules of Walmart fish oil, 400mg VE, 1000 mg VC, 325 mg aspirin, and only half a 75 mg Plavix.

    Then, I went to Walmart and got a new supply of fish oil.  Upon taking it I started to get pretty strong chest pains and had to stop working out.  I did not associate the problem with the fish oil though.

    One day I came to this blog and read about rancidity in fish oil.  I broke open one of the fish oil caps from Walmart and was overwhelmed by the spoiled fish smell.  I immediately stopped taking the oil and my chest pains gradually diminished.

    My question is whether I am likely right that it was the oxidized fish oil causing the chest pains?  This wasn't a very rigorously controlled experiment. I am not looking for an absolute answer but is it possible that rancid fish oil can cause chest pains?

  • Anonymous

    2/23/2011 12:56:27 PM |

    Farseas that is very interesting. Glad to hear you have been doing better.

    in for answer on rancid oil.

    I've been using Ascenta fish oil. They're based out of nova scotia. All their oils are in triglyceride form.

    Ascentahealth.com....although can be found much cheaper elsewhere like iherb.com

  • Anonymous

    2/23/2011 12:56:39 PM |

    Farseas that is very interesting. Glad to hear you have been doing better.

    in for answer on rancid oil.

    I've been using Ascenta fish oil. They're based out of nova scotia. All their oils are in triglyceride form.

    Ascentahealth.com....although can be found much cheaper elsewhere like iherb.com

  • Anonymous

    2/25/2011 10:30:39 AM |

    Should we worry about this?
    Fish Oil Increases Risk of Colitis, Colon Cancer in Mice

    http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/fish-oil-increases-risk-colitis-colon-cancer-mice

  • john

    4/9/2011 6:49:51 AM |

    Thank you so much for the post. Fish oil is best for our health.This is very informative blog.
    -fish oil

  • Gailtoo

    4/27/2013 1:19:39 PM |

    Personally, I don't put a lot of faith in studies done on mice. Their biological makeup is different than ours and these studies often give mice mega-doses of whatever they are testing for over very short periods of time, which could have adverse consequences for anyone. I like human trials better.

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Would you bet your life on chelation?

Would you bet your life on chelation?


Hugh's heart scan score was 1751, an awful score. Recall that, at this level of scoring, Hugh's heart attack and death risk is 25% per year.

Obviously, serious efforts need to be taken. In this situation, much as I despise drug companies and what they represent and their heavy-handed ways, I'm more inclined to resort directly to prescription agents, as well as our nutritional supplements and other strategies. The price of dilly-dallying could be his death.

Hugh and his wife asked about chelation. Now, there are five studies I'm aware of that have tried to examine the value of chelation. None showed any measurable benefit, though all were rather weak in design and small in number of participants. One study, for instance, looked at whether anginal chest pains were provoked any later after chelation. Another looked at whether calf claudication, or calf cramping while walking due to artery blockages in the leg arteries, was delayed on treadmill testing after chelation. No benefit was observed: no delay in provocation of angina, no delay in provocation of claudication.

However, the adherents of chelation have been vehement enough that the NIH has funded a large, multi-center study to settle the question once and for all. Best I can tell, the study has not been contaminated by any drug company involvement. It is meant to be an unbiased, objective study of whether chelation has any value.

My personal experience in patients who underwent chelation is that, despite spending hundreds or thousands of dollars, plaque grew at the expected rate--no effect at all.

None of this constitutes proof of efficacy nor proof of lack of efficacy. We will need to await the NIH trial to have better information.

Should Hugh bet his life on chelation? I advised him strongly against it. At this point, the only reason I can see to pursue chelation would be faith--that is, expectation based not on fact, but on hope.

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  • JJC

    1/31/2007 9:22:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Thanks for this information. So many "alternative" medicine people promote chelation that without your experience, it would be very tempting to try it.

    Jim

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Heart scan scores dropping like stones!!

Heart scan scores dropping like stones!!

I saw two instances of dramatic coronary plaque regression today.

John, a 53-years old mechanical lift operator, dropped his heart scan score from 479 to 323--a 32% regression of coronary plaque volume!

Eric, a 50-year consulting engineer, dropped his heart scan score from 668 to 580--a 13% reduction.

Both men did nothing special beyond the principles advocated in the Track Your Plaque program. Recall that, without preventive efforts, your heart scan score is expected to increase by 30% per year. Both men are well on their way to freedom from risk of coronary "events".

Two less people to feed the revenue-hungry hospital procedure system! We need many more like them.
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Watch your fish oil labels

Watch your fish oil labels

A quick quiz:

How much omega-3 fatty acids, EPA + DHA, are in each capsule of fish oil with the composition shown on the label below:





If you said 1340 mg (894 mg + 446 mg), sorry, but you're wrong. There are 670 mg EPA + DHA per capsule.

Did you notice that the composition, or "Supplement Facts," lists the contents of two capsules? Rather than the usual one capsule contents, this product label lists two capsules.

I don't know why some manufacturers or distributors do this. However, I have seen many people tripped up by this kind of labeling, taking half the omega-3 fatty acids they thought they were taking. This can be important when you are trying to obtain a specific dose of EPA + DHA to reduce triglycerides, reduce Lp(a), control abnormal heart rhythms, reduce bipolar mood swings, or other important effects.

I liken this to pulling up to a gas station where the sign says gasoline for $1.25. Wow! Can't beat that! You then find out that it's really $1.25 for a half-gallon, or $2.50 a gallon.

In truth, the labeling is accurate; it's just very easy to not notice the two capsule composition.

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  • Jenny

    12/17/2009 2:43:18 PM |

    The supplement business, completely unregulated, is a magnet for scoundrels. The label is nothing compared to the deceptions they practice in what they put into the capsule and pill. Over and over again lab testing shows the pills either don't contain what you are paying for or contain dangerous contaminants.

    This probably explains why so many studies find that taking vitamin supplements increases mortality in large populations. The toxic load of the pills is probably to blame.

  • jtkeith

    12/17/2009 4:27:25 PM |

    This is a good point, and one I've certainly seen.  

    On a side note, 670mg of EPA/DHA  per capsule is higher than pretty much anything I can find.  500 is more like the upper limit.  Can anyone provide brand guidance about where to find these super potent versions?  

    And another thing I've long wondered is if there are any significant differences between one fish oil and another?  For example, some tout that the fish oil comes from wild salmon, which is better because... ?

  • Dennis

    12/17/2009 6:26:10 PM |

    Interesting article. I have some articles that I've written on fish oil too on my website http://myherbalsupplement.com - I'd love if you checked it out.

  • sdkidsbooks

    12/17/2009 7:27:40 PM |

    Dr. D,

    A bit off this topic, but I was wondering what your thoughts are on the latest research posted yesterday on Crestor.  They are now recommending Crestor for those with normal lipids who have "other" factors for potential heart disease.  It was shown to prevent heart attacks and strokes for those participants. Is this another BIG PHARMA scam?

  • gsbuck

    12/17/2009 8:25:17 PM |

    what would be an eqivilant dose of Flax seed oil if one is currently taking fish oil (2,600IU's of EPA+DEA )

  • Kamila

    12/17/2009 11:11:37 PM |

    I've noticed this too, Dr Davis.  There is some justification with regard to splitting doses in order to make the capsule size more palatable.  But, oftentimes there does appear to be deliberate obfuscation in order to make the purchase price appear more attractive.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/17/2009 11:30:47 PM |

    Gsbuck--

    3 gallons.

    Just kidding. So little of the linolenic acid in flaxseed oil is converted to DHA that it's impossible to raise your blood level of EPA + DHA using flaxseed oil.

    The claims made by some marketers of flaxseed oil as an omega-3 fatty acid source are simply untrue.

    Nonetheless, flaxseed oil is a wonderful oil with benefits all of its own, just not EPA or DHA blood levels.

  • preserve

    12/18/2009 12:59:14 AM |

    "I don't know why some manufacturers or distributors do this."

    Profit optimization / discriminatory pricing.  Charge illiterates a higher price than literates.

  • Hans Schrauwen

    12/18/2009 10:15:14 AM |

    And what about the claims that     Omega3 from algae is just as good ? They claim fish have DHA because they get it from algae anyway, so why not go direct? If nothing else it has less environmental impact, and if cold-subtracted potentially less oxidized :
    http://www.v-pure.com/

    I take it myself and I never have those "fish burps" from it although it tastes exactly like all other fish-oils.

  • Rob

    12/18/2009 3:47:57 PM |

    I've only recently started following your blog and I dunno if this is the most appropriate place to ask, but what (generally speaking) would be a recommended daily EPA/DHA (or total Omega-3) dosage?

    I've been taking a krill oil supplement for several months, but the dosage is a fraction of that offered by the capsule you used for an example in this post.  So that makes me wonder if I'm taking enough of the supplement to even make a real difference.

  • Carolyn Thomas

    12/18/2009 5:47:20 PM |

    This helps to explain my pet peeves about the supplement industry - as Jenny says, it's a completely unregulated industry.

    In fact, there is no legal requirement for what's listed on the label to even match what's actually inside the capsule.  As long as manufacturers don't claim to 'cure disease', they can pretty well say what they like, at least until proposed industry regulation hits in the next two years - unless the industry's very powerful lobby groups are successful in squashing regulation, as they are of course trying to do.

  • Anonymous

    12/19/2009 1:25:49 AM |

    How can one enjoy raw Almonds and Hazelnuts (my fave) without overdosing on Omega 6?

    Also, any thoughts on whether monocytes reflect too much Omega 6?  I read something on this by Dr. Glen Aukerman regarding lipomas.  He claims lipomas and uterine fibroids are caused by excessive Omega 6 and recommends no nuts at all, no flaxseed, no poultry.  My monocytes tested at 10 which was not flagged as abnormal -- he claims 3.5 is ideal.  I have lipomas and fibroids. My CRP is so low it does not register and ESR was zero. I've never heard this monocyte theory before.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/19/2009 1:32:47 AM |

    The key with nutritional supplements is to be an informed consumer.

    The WRONG response is: Because I can't always trust the supplement manufacturers, I'll turn to prescription agents (like prescription fish oil).

    I'd personally only turn in the direction of prescription fish oil if I were interested in STICKING IT TO MY FELLOW HEALTHCARE CONSUMERS! I am not, so I prefer that we all educate ourselves on what preparations are reliable and safe.

  • Anonymous

    12/19/2009 2:57:36 AM |

    Dear Author heartscanblog.blogspot.com !
    Clearly, I thank for the help in this question.

  • Healthy Oil Planet.com

    12/19/2009 5:26:49 PM |

    It's really important to look closely at the labels to determine exactly how much ingredient you're getting per dose.  The same applies to food labels as these can be misleading if one doesn't analyze the label closely.

  • homertobias

    12/20/2009 7:44:57 PM |

    Dr Davis

    It is worse than that.  Alot of brands, (Costco is the worst), not only trip you up on serving size but also do the following: Total omega 3: (including DHA/EPA) 375mg.
    So how much DHA/EPA here?  Who knows!  When you look down at the ingredients you will find anchovies, Vit E, and SOY.  Which is cheaper, anchovies or ALA from soy.  And who knows how much Omega 6.

  • Anonymous

    12/20/2009 9:23:45 PM |

    Also be on the lookout for labels that don't mention the EPA/DHA ratios. I've seen some cheaper brands just list 'Omega 3s', with no breakdown.  And if interested in form used (ethyl ester vs triglyceride) you'll have to read the label closely too -- but quite often this isn't even mentioned.

    Although that leads to another point: what is the optimal EPA/DHA ratio as far as reducing heart disease risks?  I don't think this has really been studied that closely.

  • Mindscaper

    12/21/2009 6:00:22 PM |

    I read so much on nutritional interventions for CHD and atherosclerosis that I sometimes lose the source of my information. Sorry if this is the wrong attribution but I think it was Art Ayers (might have been Stephen Guyenet) who blogged about the dangers of using fish oil as a source of Omega 3s. One caveat is that  fish oil oxidizes very easily on the shelf and is likely to also do so in the warm temperatures within the body--therefore it could contribute to inflammation rather than prevent it. If this is true, it is a serious consideration for those who already have atherosclerosis and are attempting to reverse it by using anti-inflammatory foods and supplements. What do you think about this? Should we be getting our omega 3s and 6s from other sources? If so, which?

    I also wonder about disturbing the appropriate balance of omega 3s and 6s by eating either walnuts, almonds, or sunflower seeds daily to help eliminate excessive plaque. So many conflicting ideas--what is one to believe and do?

    Thanks for all the information you generously provide.

  • Judy B

    12/22/2009 2:00:31 AM |

    Is there a search function on this site?

  • Mindscaper

    12/23/2009 3:05:39 AM |

    Ted, Thanks very much for your detailed and informative post. I intend to follow-up by reading your suggested list. Your post is very helpful in clearing up some confusion I was experiencing.Just rereading Stephan's posts go a long way to solidify my understanding of inflammatory processes resulting from chronic overindulgence in excess omega 6s, refined carbs,etc. Ironically, I have been conscientiously attempting to follow the best advice and practices concerning CVD since my father died in the 1970s at the age of 48 after 2 heart attacks and a series of strokes.

    Unfortunately, it turns out that the "best advice" was almost all certainly wrong and in some cases fraudulent. I succumbed to the very disease I thought I was avoiding by my "healthy" lifestyle. The best thing I had going for me had been a  complete  avoidance of doctors until my totally unexpected heart attack last year. At that point my life was saved by Western medicine but I was literally hijacked by the medical system. Because I had insurance I was given an unnecessary $17,000 helicopter ride, two angioplasty procedures, a week's confinement in a hospital and 4 stents--(one of them to replace a botched procedure that caused a vessel dissection). Subsequently, I was placed on statins,plavix, ace inhibitors, and beta blockers for at least a year.

    My intent is to get off of these as soon as possible and to that end I'm seeing an integrative medicine D.O. at the University of Maryland in addition to my cardiologist. She is supportive of my anti-inflammatory diet, antioxidents, vitamin D3  and amino acids, Q-10, and  NO enhancers. I've made her my primary care doctor so she can help me communicate with my cardiologist who I overheard saying (while I was being wheeled in on a gurney "here's a person who should never eat another egg for the rest of her life". How can these MD's be so indoctrinated and misinformed? It is mind-boggling to me. However, once a captive within the system it is extremely difficult to extracate oneself. I was told before I left the hospital that if I missed one dose of Plavix I could cause a clot to form and could die. I was not told that there are other natural platelet anticoagulants that work very well. I was also told that it is virtually impossible to reverse atherosclerosis by nutracueticals and lifestyle changes. It has been an eye opening process to learn differently from doing my own research.
    Again. . . thanks for the information. It will keep me busy for the next little while. Cee

  • Adolfo David

    12/23/2009 6:40:02 AM |

    Dear Dr Davis, I have seen some people criticize your TC scan program because of this might increase cancer risk. So I believe you may be interested in an opposite view, since low dose radiation can be healthy and good based on the phenomenon of hormesis – "a dose response phenomenon whereby a substance that in a high dose inhibits, or is toxic to, a biological process will, in a much smaller dose, stimulate (or protect) that same process."

    CT Scans May Reduce Rather than
    Increase the Risk of Cancer
    http://www.jpands.org/vol13no1/scott.pdf

  • TedHutchinson

    12/25/2009 1:47:43 PM |

    @ Judy B
    If you go to the Heartscanblog home page you will find on the left hand side of the black bar at the very top of the page, a searchbox.

    But that only searches Dr Davis blogs.
    It doesn't search the comments.
    Some of the readers here are very informed and often there are interesting points raised in the comments that add to the valuable information in the blog.
    So to search the blog and the comments I use
    Google advanced search and enter the Heartscanblog URL
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/
    in the search filter box
    Search within a site or domain:

    If you are searching for a post or comment that was recent then select an option from the
    Date, usage rights, numeric range, and more filter menu.

    To speed up searching through the results for the information you want then using you keyboard keys
    Ctrl F brings up a new searchbox, enter the word/phrase you are looking for in this box and then you can quickly skim through each of the occasions that word/phrase appears here.

  • bestrate

    1/4/2010 6:53:02 PM |

    Regarding Rob's question (way up at the top) about fish oil dosages, I too have been wondering about that.  I did find a very fascinating compilation summarizing the opinions of experts on proper dosages which I have bookmarked at (see http://www.buy-fish-oil.com/how-much-fish-oil-dosage-per-day-should-i-take/ )  It was particularly instructive to learn how fish oil has been used in extreme cases of brain failure, heart failure, kidney failure and liver failure such as the treatment and remarkable recovery of the coal miner who survived the Sago mine disaster.  Fascinating.

  • Health Test Dummy

    1/13/2010 7:41:20 PM |

    I recently bought one out of necessity. It has Caramel Coloring added!!!! CARAMEL COLORING???!!!!

    I am indeed perturbed.

  • Anonymous

    1/26/2010 1:36:39 PM |

    "The supplement business, completely unregulated, is a magnet for scoundrels. The label is nothing compared to the deceptions they practice in what they put into the capsule and pill. Over and over again lab testing shows the pills either don't contain what you are paying for or contain dangerous contaminants."

    As a recent subscriber to http://www.consumerlab.com/ I find that for the most part supplements have in them what they claim...and are free of contaminants.  You COULD generally buy supplements from certain dependable sources and be safe doing so.  I don't work in the industry.

  • Term papers

    1/26/2010 3:42:22 PM |

    I notice that the composition, or "Supplement Facts," lists the contents of two capsules Rather than the usual one capsule contents, this product label lists two capsules.

  • Marek Doyle

    2/6/2010 9:23:22 PM |

    Definitely worth buying a good quality fish oil supplement from a manufacturer you trust - and, ate least, taste the oil thats in your capsule before gobbling them down.

    Reference gsbuck's question above, it is difficult to create an exact equivalent between fish oils and flaxseed oils because of the way they are handled in the body. Flaxseed provides a lot of ALA, a plant omega-3s, which needs to be converted in the body into EPA/DHA, the 'active' omega 3s. In healthy people, around 16% of ALA is converted into EPA/DHA. So if you take 10g flaxseed oil, thats 8000mg of ALA, converts to 1280mg EPA/DHA. This is what you would find in around 4 grams of normal fish oil. But... older people, those with chronic disease, those with nutritional deficiency, etc, will never convert very effectively and require fish oils.

    I have discussed the benefits of fish oils vs flaxseed oil here.

  • Anonymous

    2/10/2010 6:04:09 AM |

    nice post. thanks.

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  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 7:33:52 PM |

    I don't know why some manufacturers or distributors do this. However, I have seen many people tripped up by this kind of labeling, taking half the omega-3 fatty acids they thought they were taking. This can be important when you are trying to obtain a specific dose of EPA + DHA to reduce triglycerides, reduce Lp(a), control abnormal heart rhythms, reduce bipolar mood swings, or other important effects.

  • Serdna

    2/14/2011 10:01:50 AM |

    Well, it seems to me that this is the label of the fish oil I consume. Maybe I am a little naive, but I just interpreted this label as a strong recommendation to take 2 softgels a day at a minimum and that they would have done a twice greater softgel if it could still be swallowed.

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Surprise: Heart scan score reversal

Surprise: Heart scan score reversal

Gene is a jovial, fun-loving railroad worker who didn't take anything too seriously--including his heart scan score of 767.

This score placed Gene solidly in the 99th percentile (in the worst 1%). It came as no surprise to Gene. After all, his father died at age 36 of a heart attack and Gene's brother died at 60 of a heart attack. So Gene took life as it came and long ago decided not to fret about his fate.

But Gene's wife prodded him and prodded him to get the heart scan. That's when I met him.

Of course, Gene had been prescribed Lipitor by his doctor for a somewhat high LDL cholesterol. Our assessment uncovered several additional patterns including lipoprotein (a), small LDL, a pre-diabetic tendency, and a severe deficiency of vitamin D.

At 224 lb and 5 ft 6 inches in height, I felt that Gene was at least 40 lbs overweight.

One year later and with reasonable correction of all his patterns except weight loss and Gene's heart scan score was 590--a reduction of 23%!

Gene was thrilled, as was I. But, frankly, I was also surprised. Dramatic regression of coronary plaque tends to not occur so readily as long as pre-diabetic patterns persist and weight is not controlled.

The lesson: Often the only way to tell if you've achieved control or regression of coronary plaque is to have another heart scan. The tremendous variation in human responses never ceases to amaze me.
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Doctor, do I have lipoprotein (a)?

Doctor, do I have lipoprotein (a)?

I met Joyce today for a 2nd opinion. She told me about this conversation she'd had with her cardiologist:

"Doctor, do you think I could have lipoprotein (a)? I read about how it can cause heart attacks even when cholesterol is controlled."

"What does it matter? Even if you have it, there's nothing we can do about it. There's no treatment for it."

Joyce was understandably groping for some means to prevent her coronary disease from causing more danger. At 56, she'd already survived a heart attack that resulted in two stents to her left anterior descending. Around 9 months later, she received a 3rd stent to another artery.

Her doctor had put her on Pravachol and said that was enough. "We know that cholesterol causes heart disease and the Pravachol reduces it. Why do we need to know anything more?"

So Joyce came to me for another view. I explained to her that there are, in fact, several ways to deal with lipoprotein(a). It is, without a doubt, among the more difficult patterns to manage--but not impossible. In fact, we have a growing list of participants in the Track Your Plaque program who have stopped or reduced their heart scan scores.

I continue to be horrified at the level of ignorance that prevails among my colleagues, the cardiologists, and the primary care community. If your doctor gives you advice like this, get a new doctor.
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