What the Institute of Medicine SHOULD have said

The news is full of comments, along with many attention-grabbing headlines, about the announcement from the Institute of Medicine that the new Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for vitamin D should be 600 units per day for adults.

What surprised me was the certainty with which some of the more outspoken committee members expressed with their view that 1) the desirable serum 25-hydroxy vitamin D level was only 20 ng/ml, and 2) that most Americans already obtain a sufficient quantity of vitamin D.

Here's what I believe the Institute of Medicine SHOULD have said:

Multiple lines of evidence suggest that there is a plausible biological basis for vitamin D's effects on cancer, inflammatory responses, bone health, and metabolic responses including insulin responsiveness and blood glucose. However, the full extent and magnitude of these responses has not yet been fully characterized.

Given the substantial observations reported in several large epidemiologic studies that show an inverse correlation between 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels and mortality, there is without question an association between vitamin D and mortality from cancer, cardiovascular disease, and all cause mortality. However, it has not been established that there are cause-effect relationships, as this cannot be established by epidemiologic study.

While the adverse health effects of 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels of less than 30 ng/ml have been established, the evidence supporting achieving higher 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels remains insufficient, limited to epidemiologic observations on cancer incidence. However, should 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels of greater than 30 ng/ml be shown to be desirable for ideal health, then vitamin D deficiency has potential to be the most widespread deficiency of the modern age.

Given the potential for vitamin D's impact on multiple facets of health, as suggested by preliminary epidemiologic and basic science data, we suggest that future research efforts be focused on establishing 1) the ideal level of 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels to achieve cancer-preventing, bone health-preserving or reversing, and cardiovascular health preventive benefits, 2) the racial and genetic (vitamin D receptor, VDR) variants that may account for varying effects in different populations, 3) whether vitamin D restoration has potential to exert not just health-preserving effects, but also treatment effects, specifically as adjunct to conventional cancer and osteoporosis therapies, and 4) how such vitamin D restoration is best achieved.

Until the above crucial issues are clarified, we advise Americans that vitamin D is a necessary and important nutrient for multiple facets of health but, given current evidence, are unable to specify a level of vitamin D intake that is likely to be safe, effective, and fully beneficial for all Americans.


Instead of a careful, science-minded conclusion that meets the painfully conservative demands of crafting broad public policy, the committee instead chose to dogmatically pull the discussion back to the 1990s, ignoring the flood of compelling evidence that suggests that vitamin D is among the most important public health issues of the age.

Believe it or not, this new, though anemic, RDA represents progress: It's a (small) step farther down the road towards broader recognition and acceptance that higher intakes (or skin exposures) to achieve higher vitamin D levels are good for health.

My view: Vitamin D remains among the most substantial, life-changing health issues of our age. Having restored 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels in over 1000 people, I have no doubt whatsoever that vitamin D achieves substantial benefits in health with virtually no downside, provided 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels are monitored.

Comments (47) -

  • Peter

    12/1/2010 2:27:18 AM |

    The headlines could have sais IOM raises RDA of Vitamin D 50%.

  • Jenny

    12/1/2010 2:29:45 AM |

    There is as yet NO study where supplementation with Vitamin D was shwon to reverse or improve any of the conditions with which the deficiency is associated.

    We can't call for evidence based medicine and then dismiss that call when the evidence isn't there to support our pet theories.

    I have not found any studies suggesting that Vitamin D improves blood sugar control in people who had low levels, and though I get an avalanche of mail from the diabetes community I have not heard from anyone whose blood sugar improved after taking it.

    So my conclusion is that it is not the cure all that some people would like it to be. With the unhappy history of Vitamin A, C, and E supplementation (which turn out to be ineffective or in the case of the antioxidants correlate with higher mortality) the people making these kinds of recommendations are right to be cautious.

    And given the very bad outcome with the megadose injections, and the poor quality of the expensive supplements, it's probably good they didn't endorse it more enthusiastically. More study is needed, particularly in regard to setting doses so people don't end up with milk alkali syndrome.

  • Anonymous

    12/1/2010 5:01:18 AM |

    I'm somewhat convinced I've experienced many health benefits from D supplementation.  I'm also somewhat convinced it's played a significant role in my body's new habit of making kidney stones.

  • PY

    12/1/2010 11:10:26 AM |

    Isn't the burden of proof on vitamin D proponents to show supplementation has a unambiguously positive effect, particularly when there is concern that there may be negative effects?  Your response here unfortunately doesn't give us much to stand on as vitamin D users, in terms of any rigorous data-based conclusions (as opposed to observational conclusions).  That is somewhat concerning.

  • PY

    12/1/2010 11:14:37 AM |

    Here is one article on the ISM panel's conclusions.  I am re-posting it here, as it my previous comment with the link was deleted from the previous post on this blog:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/health/30vitamin.html?src=me&ref=homepage

    From the article:

    "But Andrew Shao, an executive vice president at the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade group, said the panel was being overly cautious, especially in its recommendations about vitamin D.  He said there was no convincing evidence that people were being harmed by taking supplements, and he said higher levels of vitamin D, in particular, could be beneficial.

    Such claims “are not supported by the available evidence,” the committee wrote. They were based on studies that observed populations and concluded that people with lower levels of the vitamin had more of various diseases. Such studies have been misleading and most scientists agree that they cannot determine cause and effect.

    It is not clear how or why the claims for high vitamin D levels started, medical experts say. First there were two studies, which turned out to be incorrect, that said people needed 30 nanograms of vitamin D per milliliter of blood, the upper end of what the committee says is a normal range. They were followed by articles and claims and books saying much higher levels — 40 to 50 nanograms or even higher — were needed.

    After reviewing the data, the committee concluded that the evidence for the benefits of high levels of vitamin D was “inconsistent and/or conflicting and did not demonstrate causality.”

    Evidence also suggests that high levels of vitamin D can increase the risks for fractures and the overall death rate and can raise the risk for other diseases. While those studies are not conclusive, any risk looms large when there is no demonstrable benefit. Those hints of risk are “challenging the concept that ‘more is better,’ ” the committee wrote.

    That is what surprised Dr. Black. “We thought that probably higher is better,” he said.

    He has changed his mind, and expects others will too: “I think this report will make people more cautious.”

  • Jim

    12/1/2010 11:46:18 AM |

    Just wanted to say that I really appreciate what Dr. Davis brings to this site.  

    And I also appreciate the community here that is not afraid to push back from time to time with thoughtful opposing comments.  

    After what we have seen in the last 30 years, at this point, it should take a lot of convincing any time vitamin x or food y is offered up as the next great health wonder.

  • qualia

    12/1/2010 2:33:20 PM |

    @jenny i really can't take your comments seriously. you doesn't seem to know what you're talking about at all.

    "poor quality of the expensive supplements"

    SERIOUSLY?? vitamin D3 is one of the cheapest and simplest supplement you can get on the market. a years supply of 5000IU even from high-quality, reputable brands rarely costs more than 15-20$ on-line. wtf are you talking about?

  • Anonymous

    12/1/2010 2:52:38 PM |

    Jenny's right, when I take anything above 1500 IU/day (conservative according to more and more proponents of D3 supplementation) I get sign of hypercalcaemia immediately.

    And yes, I have tried adding K2, makes no difference.

    I'm from Northern European heritage and suspect that we need very little D.

  • Nigel Kinbrum

    12/1/2010 3:15:48 PM |

    Anonymous said...
    "Jenny's right, when I take anything above 1500 IU/day (conservative according to more and more proponents of D3 supplementation) I get sign of hypercalcaemia immediately.

    And yes, I have tried adding K2, makes no difference.

    I'm from Northern European heritage and suspect that we need very little D."


    I'm descended from Poles & Lithuanians and have normal serum Calcium (by blood test) on 5,000iu/day D3. Have you been tested for Sarcoidosis, Primary Hyperparathyroidism, Milk-alkali Syndrome or any other medical condition that can result in hypercalcaemia?

    K2 doesn't prevent hypercalcaemia. It only reduces inappropriate calcification that can occur even with normocalcaemia.

  • Anand Srivastava

    12/1/2010 3:40:54 PM |

    When taking supplements that should not cause problems normally, and you experience problems there is normally an underlying problem.

    My brother was detected Hashimoto's when supplementing iodine.

    My wife has a single kidney, and very high doses of vitamin D causes her problem. But 4000IU is not a problem.

    If you are getting a problem at 1500IU, you should get yourself tested for hyperparathyroidism. It is a pretty common result of Vitamin D supplementation. There may be other reasons why Vitmain D3 may cause problems, particularly in renal system.

    It is good to take these vitamin once in a higher dose to determine if you have any problem related to their dosage.

  • Anne

    12/1/2010 7:11:10 PM |

    Jenny - Here's a study: 'Vitamin D and diabetes Improvement of glycemic control with vitamin D3 repletion':

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2426990/

  • Anonymous

    12/1/2010 11:00:35 PM |

    Anyone here ever read "The Real Truth About Vitamins and Antioxidants" by Judith DeCava ?

    Most "vitamins" are actually very high doses of only parts or fractions of naturally occuring vitamins. Therefore they act like drugs, not like nutrition. They CANNOT help organs heal.
    Dr. Gus

  • Anonymous

    12/1/2010 11:47:41 PM |

    I weigh 114 lbs and take 2400 IU daily (softgels). I recently tested at 56 after 2 years of supplementation. Although, last summer I took 5000 IU daily. I am concerned about excess D, but I don't have a doctor. I won't be stabbing my fingers again since my finger still hasn't recovered from a home test. It still hurts after 6 weeks. I believe vitamin D has helped me, and I don't really want to cut back on the dose. However, I'm reducing the dose to an average of 2000 IU daily. I will try to test with Life Extension next time if I can find a lab around here - definitely vein jab only! I wish I had a good doctor.

  • Anonymous

    12/2/2010 12:42:37 AM |

    Well I guess most of the time we Canadians are in lock-stock with our neighbors on the continent

    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/nutrition/vitamin/vita-d-eng.php

    that is a big improvement though.  The 4000IU max is half what I take but then again, this is a recommendation for a healthy individual not someone with a family history of heart disease like me.

    K2 max is about a quarter of my daily:-
    http://webprod.hc-sc.gc.ca/nhpid-bdipsn/singredReq.do?id=546&lang=eng

    But apparently for fish oil I am on target:-
    http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodnatur/applications/licen-prod/monograph/mono_fish_oil_huile_poisson-eng.php

    I tell people about this site every chance I get

  • Peter

    12/2/2010 1:09:20 AM |

    There is one study referred to in The Perfect Health Diet (which parallels the advice in this blog very closely) that people who had blood levels of Vitamin D over 80 had triple the heart disease.  This from southern India.

  • Anonymous

    12/2/2010 1:51:33 AM |

    and what do you expect from a self styled government organization?
    At least people with any sort of common sense and knowledge will know to disregard their "advice". And there is really no difference between 20 or 30 or 50 to 60. The gene transcription only starts after 100, I know I am supplementing vitamin D up to a million units per day to deal with various issues and I must say it works. I feel that vitamin D in such doses has a real effect on athletic abilities, I am sprinting like a teenager again and many other health improvements. Bottom line Dr. Davis, don't lose your time and nerves with the noise from governments and various "experts" , that's just barking up a wrong tree. They have an agenda to rule over us and it's only a matter of whether we allow them or not.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/2/2010 2:06:33 AM |

    I put as much stock in the Institute of Medicine's advice on vitamin D, or any other vitamin for that matter, as I do the advice of the USDA on nutrition. Both have declared themselves irrelevant by their almost ridiculous detachment from reality.

    The data are overwhelming: Vitamin D is intimately associated with multiple facets of health.

    Another issue: The committee appears to be applying a drug-like standard to vitamin D: They require placebo vs. treatment clinical trials, a standard that other vitamins have not been held up to.

  • Anonymous

    12/2/2010 2:07:28 AM |

    Goodness!  All of this focus on "science."  There really should be focus on just getting enough of this nutrient on a regular basis without interference from sunshine phobia and the lack of good nutrition from fats.

  • Dr. William Davis

    12/2/2010 2:09:40 AM |

    Sorry, Jenny, but I believe that you are flat wrong.

    While the studies tend to be small, there are indeed studies that have shown reversal of various conditions, including reversal of blood markers for bone resorption, insulin resistance, c-reactive protein, hyperparathyroidism, hypercalcemia, etc.

    Just because vitamin D has not enjoyed the deep-pocketed budget of a drug company's backing and therefore does not yet have a vitamin D vs placebo trial does not mean that humans do not need it or don't need more of it.

    I am personally appalled at the committee's closed-mindedness at what I believe is an incredibly important "supplement." Frankly, I don't care what the IOM says; I continue to do what I believe is right and what has worked for me and my patients time and time again.

  • Garry

    12/2/2010 2:24:11 AM |

    Dr. Davis,
    Do you routinely monitor blood calcium levels in your vitamin D-supplemented patients?  Thanks.

  • Daniel A. Clinton, RN, BSN

    12/2/2010 6:25:05 AM |

    This new recommendation accomplishes absolutely nothing. Those who are still ignorant as to the absurd irrelevance of consensus opinions by government health offices or medical professional organizations will continue to be Vitamin D deficient. And those of us who are really good at interpreting data and have thoroughly researched Vitamin D will trust our read of the data over all the propaganda.  All this does is show that we are at least 15 years ahead of most everyone else, and that's actually really sad, and something I refuse to accept because America deserves better.

  • Patricia D.

    12/2/2010 8:54:15 AM |

    Regarding the above mentioned statement by Dr. Cannell of the Vitamin D Council: Today, the FNB has failed millions... - Toward the end, Dr. Cannell discusses his intention to have the suppressed reports - by Vitamin D experts associated with the decision by the FNB - made public.  Which would be great.

  • Anonymous

    12/2/2010 9:49:15 AM |

    Hey, if they go on "progressing" that way the RDA will be quite allright in...em... 250 years...
    Let's celebrate!

  • Drs. Cynthia and David

    12/2/2010 10:34:11 AM |

    Many of the studies that have been done have used very small doses of vit D, so the failure to show unequivocal results is not surprising.  The associational studies don't prove causation of course but certainly provide hypotheses for testing.  So the conservative approach (CYA) is to recommend low doses still.  A search of clinicaltrials.gov for vit D trials shows a ton of trials being initiated.  We will have to wait a few years for the results to be reported and interpreted.  Meanwhile, I supplement with 5000 units per day but don't take calcium as that doesn't seem to be necessary with adequate D levels, and my calcium level is right where it should be.  

    Cynthia

  • Adam

    12/2/2010 1:01:32 PM |

    I'm tempted to write a faux press release from the IOM saying that there is little conclusive evidence that Vitamin C is related to scurvy and that we should be cautious in making radical arguments for fruit in the navy. ;)

  • Steve Cooksey

    12/2/2010 1:36:37 PM |

    I agree with Dr. Davis on D3.

    Primarily due to my own experience. I supplement with Vit D3 (4-6k) and Omega 3 Daily.

    I am a type 2 diabetic who has normal blood sugar AND I take -0- drugs and -0- insulin.

  • Peter

    12/2/2010 1:50:27 PM |

    One study that would be very cheap and fast would be to test Dr.Davis's observation that vitamin D from tablets doesn't reliably raise blood levels like gelcaps do.

  • Anonymous

    12/2/2010 7:26:26 PM |

    The Vitamin D issue is becoming the Global Warming controversy of the medical world. I haven't seen such sharp divisions in the medical community over the efficacy of any other drug/supplement as this one. The usual way this goes is that for any non-pharmaceutical/non-prescription item, there always strong push back from the governing medical bodies, despite empirical data suggesting benefit.

  • DK

    12/3/2010 2:32:46 AM |

    I have no doubt whatsoever that vitamin D achieves substantial benefits in health with virtually no downside, provided 25-hydroxy vitamin D levels are monitored.

    Don't you think such statements are a tad cavalier? Literature certainly does not give one such level of confidence. There are several indicators that some cancers increase with increasing Vit. D. Plus, there are bound to be ethnic and gender differences in response to vit. D. And you have no doubt that treating everyone the same to achieve the same and largely random number is a good thing? Wow, just wow.

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2010 8:27:18 PM |

    This seems scary, Vitamin D associated with increased risk of pancreatic cancer:

    http://fanaticcook.blogspot.com/2010/11/vitamin-d-linked-to-pancreatic-cancer.html

  • Travis Culp

    12/3/2010 9:00:55 PM |

    Just wait until there is a Lovaza-like pharmaceutical D3 that costs 1000 dollars a month and suddenly the RDA will rise to where it should be.

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2010 11:01:48 PM |

    Jenny,

      I have seen HbA1c improve in couple of cases with Vitamin D supplementation. Here's a reference to a similar observation http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Lack-of-vitamin-D-poses-diabetes-risk/articleshow/6922336.cms

    -- DK

  • Anonymous

    12/7/2010 4:58:12 PM |

    Make sure to avoid vitamin A supplements (including cod liver oil), unless you're truly deficient. Excess vitamin A blocks vitamin D benefits. I read this on the vitamin D council site.

  • Anonymous

    12/8/2010 12:07:23 AM |

    Relevant articles:

    "Anticancer Vitamins du Jour—The ABCED's So Far"

    http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/172/1/1.full

    "Vitamin D in Cancer Patients: Above All, Do No Harm"
    http://jco.ascopubs.org/content/27/13/2117.full?ijkey=e5433c6693ba2181f407767e5368af0d4a110ea5&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

  • O Primitivo

    12/8/2010 12:18:29 AM |

    There are only 8 trials on vitamin D and Diabetes, and some of them are null - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=vitamin%20d[title]%20AND%20diabetes[title]%20AND%20%28Clinical%20Trial[ptyp]%20OR%20Randomized%20Controlled%20Trial[ptyp]%29

  • Nigel Kinbrum

    12/8/2010 2:04:04 PM |

    RE Null Trials:-
    In Avenell et al, only 800iu/day was used.
    In de Boer et al, only 400iu/day was used.
    In Orwoll et al, calcitriol 1ug/day for only 4 days was used.

  • O Primitivo

    12/8/2010 5:45:35 PM |

    Nigel, thanks for the correction. I truly believe vitamin D supplementaion and more exposure is beneficial. The full IOM ob-line report is available here - http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13050

  • O Primitivo

    12/8/2010 5:59:12 PM |

    The "desirable" levels this institute assumed are not based on evolutionary evidence, they only considered the minimum level to avoid rickets. Here is a free 29-page pdf summary of the report: http://www.nap.edu/nap-cgi/report.cgi?record_id=13050&type=pdfxsum

  • Dana Seilhan

    12/11/2010 9:07:51 AM |

    I don't know what Jenny means by studies done on vitamin A.  They did a study on beta carotene and smokers.  I have my own pet hypothesis about that:  there's some thinking that cancers eat so much glucose not only because it's the only fuel many of the cancer types can use, but because it protects them from oxidation.  It makes me wonder if beta carotene encouraged lung cancer in that smokers study because the cancer cells were vulnerable to oxidative damage and the BC protected them!

    Be that as it may, beta carotene is not vitamin A, any more than clay is a brick.

    I cured a three-year run of excessive menstruation by supplementing retinol from fish liver oil.  Anecdotal evidence, I know, but the more I dig around on Science Daily and similar websites, the more I find connections between vitamin A and reproductive health, including sound development of the embryo and fetus.  I don't know where researchers get the notion that vitamin A causes birth defects;  it may actually do the exact opposite.

    I have heard criticisms that where researchers have made claims about the harmfulness of vitamin A, they are doing so based on data about synthetic vitamin A.  Fish liver oil--and hey, land-animal liver if you like to eat it--shouldn't be a problem then.

    And anyone who intakes the fat-soluble vitamins all out of balance is going to have a problem.  I'd recommend reading the Weston A. Price Foundation's information on the subject.  For instance, the ratio of vitamin A to vitamin D intake in the diet should be at least 10 to 1 or better (9 to 1, 8 to 1, etc.).

    There is still so much we don't know about these vitamins.  But in healthy populations with low dental caries and birth defect rates and with ideal or near-ideal development of facial bone structure, the intake of fat-solubles was several times the American intake in the early 1900s, when it was still considerably higher than it is in the U.S. today!  They had lab tests back then for all the fat-solubles except K, which was discovered later.  So this was documented.

    More recent studies have shown that calcium is not as well absorbed in a diet that is too high in fiber relative to fat intake.  WAPF claims that fat-soluble vitamins are necessary for the assimilation of minerals;  we've seen that with vitamin D and calcium and (if I'm not mistaken) vitamin A and iron.  There are definite connections between FS vitamins and health, even if no one's handed stone tablets down from heaven to show us either way.  There is evidence.  You just have to want to see it.

  • Kathy Kaufman's blog

    12/11/2010 12:27:17 PM |

    Dr. Davis, I had an interesting anecdotal experience from taking vitamin D.  I have suffered from canker sores since I was a young child. I'm in my sixties now and they seem to be getting worse and more frequent with multiple outbreaks to the point sometimes it was hard to speak.  Recently my MD tested my vitamin D levels and said they were too high (100) and I should cut back. I cut back and 2 days later I got 3 canker sores.  I hadn't even realized I didn't have one in the 8 months I'd been taking vitamin D.  I know the experts need to see all the clinical studies. The rest of us just want to be healthy! ( Prevention Magazine said broccoli could protect against cancer in the 1960s. Its taken the experts 50 years to catch up. )

  • Anonymous

    12/15/2010 11:13:52 AM |

    In light of the fact that the body can synthesis 10,000 IU of D3 in a short time exposed to UVB (AKA, Sunlight)...With no adverse effects, I dont understand how supplementing with say 5000IU daily, is a bad thing.

    These paltry, overly conservative recommendations are coming from  organization(s) who have got a whole lot of things wrong in the past regarding diet etc. And for the most part still are.

    Its funny that we live in a society that has a complete meltdown about supplementation issues, but doesn't generate the same hysteria or debate about the amount of diet soda, cheetos, processed foods in general, that are consumed. Funny time we are living in.

  • Garry

    12/17/2010 11:25:48 PM |

    Along the lines of Dana's comment, here's an interesting blog article by Chris Masterjohn on the topic of D, A and K.
    http://foundation.westonaprice.org/blogs/is-vitamin-d-safe-still-depends-on-vitamins-a-and-k-testimonials-and-a-human-study.html

  • George

    2/2/2011 10:42:55 PM |

    Dr Davis, I have had good lipid results, overall health with a lowercarb, nonprocessed food, no wheat diet and vitamin D suppplementation over the last 3 years. Unfortunately, have also discovered the agony of calcium oxalate kidney stones (3 episodes/3 years). Have seen some studies implicating higher protein diets and vitamin d supplementation. Have you run into kidney stones with any of your patients on vitamin d supplemention?

  • Dave

    5/12/2011 7:14:31 PM |

    To whom it may concern.  I began supplementing with Vitamin D3 a few years ago.  Right at first, I was having a considerable amount of restless legs and restless sleep.  There were other side effects that included increased muscular spasms.  Upon further research, I started supplementing with extra Magnesium. ( I was already taking MagOx which obviously was not getting absorbed).  The magnesium was a highly absorbable magnesium malate. (Magnesium glycinate is good too).  Anyway, after a few weeks the side effects disappeared and I have not had those problems since.  Vitamin D3 increases calcium absorption.  We must have an increase of magnesium to balance calcium.  Just a little FYI for those of you having kidney stones or other side effects from your vitamin D3 supplementation.

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No more Lovaza

No more Lovaza

That's it: I will NEVER ever write another prescription for Lovaza.

I actually very rarely write a prescription for Lovaza, i.e., prescription fish oil. But this was the last straw.

I advised a patient that we've had good success using high-doses of fish oil to reduce lipoprotein(a), Lp(a). 6000 mg per day of the omega-3 component (EPA + DHA) from fish oil reduces Lp(a) in 60% of people after one year. (Recall that Lp(a) is the most aggressive known lipid-related cause of heart disease.)

The two preparations I generally suggest are either the very affordable Sam's Club Members Mark Triple-Strength Fish Oil with 900 mg EPA + DHA per capsule: 7 capsules per day. Another great product (my personal favorite because of its extreme purity--it doesn't even smell like fish oil): Pharmax Finest Pure Fish Oil with 1800 mg EPA + DHA per teaspoon: 3 to 3 1/2 teaspoons per day.

Both preparations work great and are quite affordable, given the high dose. For the Sam's Club preparation, it will cost around $30 per month, while the Pharmax liquid will run around $49 per month.

Well, the woman's husband insisted on a prescription for Lovaza. One Lovaza capsule contains 784 mg EPA + DHA per capsule: 7 to 8 capsules per day.

Here are some prices for Lovaza from online pharmacy discounters:
Prescription Giant: $78.99 for 30 capsules ($2.63 per capsule)
Planet Drugs Direct: $135 for 100 capsules ($1.35 per capsule)

These are lower than the prices I obtained in past by calling local pharmacies in my area, quite a bit lower, in fact.

Filling the Lovaza prescription at Prescription Giant will therefore cost $552.93 to $631.92 per month; at Planet Drugs Direct it will cost $283.50 to $324.00 per month. At local pharmacies, a similar 7 to 9 capsules Lovaza per day will cost upwards of $800 to $900 per month.

The patient's husband insisted on the Lovaza prescription because he knew that his insurance would cover it. When I pointed out that this was a large cost that would have to be borne by others in their healthcare premiums, he said that didn't matter to him.

I hesitated, but ended up writing the prescription for 7 Lovaza capsules per day. As soon as I handed to him, I regretted it. In fact, I am embarassed and angry at myself for having given in.

So I vowed: I will NEVER EVER write another prescription for Lovaza.

I do not believe that we should spread the excessive profiteering of the pharmaceutical industry around on the backs of people who pay their healthcare insurance premiums, just so that a few people, like this selfish couple, can save a few dollars a month.

Comments (45) -

  • Anonymous

    7/30/2010 4:52:21 PM |

    Amen!  I took Lovaza for a year when my physician gave me a coupon for a monthly supply at $5/month for 12 months.  I obviously stopped when it ran out because of the "real" price.  I've started using CardioTabs (http://www.cardiotabs.com/Omega-3-Fish-Oil/productinfo/OMEGA-EC/) instead on the advice of my physician.  Any feedback on this brand?

  • Anonymous

    7/30/2010 5:17:35 PM |

    What is your opinion about Nordic Naturals DHA?  It contains 450 MG DHA and 90 MG EPA, along with 15 IUs of Vitamin E (alpha tocopherol) in two soft gels.  I've read in many places that fish oil containing more DHA than EPA is superior.

  • Joe D

    7/30/2010 5:19:13 PM |

    Even though Obama and his socialists would vehemently disagree, you make a logical point.

  • Anonymous

    7/30/2010 5:19:14 PM |

    I use Spring Valley brand and it costs me about $11 for a two for one deal (two bottles). 200 capsules per bottle 1000 mg each. EPA + DHA is only 300 per capsule but for the price taking 6 per day isn't a problem. Under $12 every 2 months isn't bad.

  • Pater_Fortunatos

    7/30/2010 5:29:53 PM |

    Hello everybody!

    Well, I see this article refer to a matter of price and less about quality.

    Dr Davis, please, what do you think about NOW Foods suplements?
    Sorry for being offtopic!
    Thanks for your blog, your work changed my life.
    All the best from Romania!

  • Anonymous

    7/30/2010 6:26:43 PM |

    For maximum absorbability, use liquid not capsules or gels, and eat with a high fat meal.

    New research also shows the probiotics in yogurt also help to minimize the oxidation:
    http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Yogurt-proteins-could-stabilize-omega-3-enrichment

    as does pollen spore shells (exines)
    http://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Pollen-spores-could-enhance-omega-3-bioavailability

    A good value for omega-3s is Twin Labs:
    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=TL-1403

  • David

    7/30/2010 7:50:15 PM |

    Take a look at Trader Joe's odorless omega 3. 90 capsules for less than $9. 1200 mg fish oil 400 mg EPA and 200 mg DHA in each capsule. The only brand I have been able to find with a 2 to 1 ratio of EPA to DHA. And there is no after taste.

  • Dave, RN

    7/30/2010 8:09:31 PM |

    I eat omnly grassfed beef and wildcaught salmon. Chicken is pastured. I don't eat grains or vegitable oils. I use coconut oil and tallow for cooking.
    That being said, can one get too much Omega 3?

  • PJNOIR

    7/30/2010 9:41:11 PM |

    Great point about the cost effecting others. Studies ghave shown that fish oil that is too pure is not as good as fish oil with a little bit of "mother" in it. Clean not sterile.

  • Mike

    7/30/2010 11:54:33 PM |

    Huge props to you, Dr. Davis, for admitting regret and posting future accountability by NOT filling scrips for Lovaza.

    Hopefully, the husband of that patient reads your blog.  But I doubt it. Smile

  • Tom C

    7/31/2010 12:20:05 AM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,
    Thank you for living your principles, and, as always, for your candid and unvarnished thoughts.
    Sincerely,
    Tom C

  • mongander

    7/31/2010 1:28:30 AM |

    I take 4 of Sam's Club triple-strength fish oil plus a 1 gram Krill Oil from Puritan's Pride.  The omega 3s, ground flax seed, curcumin, and Jean Carper's Super Osteo Gold have allowed me to jog at age 71 without any joint injury.

  • nightrite

    7/31/2010 2:31:02 AM |

    Assuming no problems with Lp(a) you can reduce the need for so much fish oil by changing your diet to low omega-6 intact.  There is competition between the two essential fats so try to limit foods high in omega-6 first.  Once you've done that you can cut back on all those fish oil capsules. It's probably helpful to take some vitamin E too to prevent potential fatty acid oxidation.

  • Lori Miller

    7/31/2010 4:01:37 AM |

    Thanks for not being part of the problem, Dr. Davis.

    The thing is, some prescription plans have a copay. If the plan of the couple is like mine, they'd have had a $30 copay. It's possible they were only saving $20 a month. For our friends outside the U.S., that'll buy a movie ticket and popcorn for one person. Nine hundred dollars is more than my mortgage payment.

  • Anne

    7/31/2010 6:46:03 AM |

    The real problem is the pharmaceutical industry and not patients who wish for prescriptions or insurance companies. Here in the UK, the last I heard,  Lovaza (marketed under the name Omacor) costs the National Heath Service £50 ($78) per 100 capsules, that is considerably less than what it costs in the US and roughly the same as comparable fish oil omega-3 supplements from health food shops in the UK. This is the pharmaceutical company charging this and it is they who should be brought to account when it comes to over profiteering from patients and insurance companies, imho.

  • David M Gordon

    7/31/2010 1:37:49 PM |

    I've started using CardioTabs instead on the advice of my physician. Any feedback on this brand?

    Not a very good deal, Anonymous.

    Each bottle includes 180 capsules, but a serving size is 3 capsules (to equal 975mg of DHA and EPA). Multiply that serving size by 6 to attain Dr Davis's objective of 6000mg of DHA and EPA per day. This means:
    1) You must ingest 18 (!) capsules/day;
    2) Each bottle of 180 capsules is a mere 10 days supply; which means
    3) 3 bottles/month at a cost of ~$100/month.

  • Dr. William Davis

    7/31/2010 3:23:45 PM |

    Several commenters have asked about specific brands.

    Consumer Lab (www.consumerlab.com) is a great place to start to see what brands have been tested.

    While it is clear that no mercury, PCBs, dioxin, or furans have been measured in any brand of OTC fish oil (slight contamination of cod liver oil, not fish body oils, with PCBs), there are differences in oxidative breakdown products.

    A quick test of oxidation: Smell your fish oil. It should only be faintly fish, not overwhelmingly fishy.

  • homertobias

    7/31/2010 4:22:41 PM |

    Can you give us some references on why 6,000 epa/dha for lp(a) carriers?

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    7/31/2010 4:30:59 PM |

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  • Tommy

    7/31/2010 6:33:18 PM |

    What about Weston A. Price suggesting that there is a potential for Omega 3 overdosing as well as the concern from contaminants  in fish oil compared to Cod liver oil due to fish oil being mostly from farmed fish? Also the benefits of Vitamin A and D from taking Cod liver oil rather than fish oil.  Personally I don't use cod liver oil, but should I be concerned about too much fish oil? Have there been long term studies?
    Thanks

    Tommy

  • kellgy

    7/31/2010 6:49:16 PM |

    This is one of the many reasons for our skyrocketing insurance costs. People need to take more responsibility for their own health. Unfortunatley, this concept is in direct conflict with the prevailing trend in our society.

    With the direction our health care industry is going, future costs will become quite prohibitive. In an effort to fight class warfare this new health care system will create a class of those who will be able to afford effective health care while the rest of us who are dependent on the government's version will be left waiting . . . It really is our fault.

  • Anonymous

    7/31/2010 7:33:45 PM |

    What's pathetic about the situation is, if the insurance company would shoulder some of the cost of basic fish oil instead of the prescription Lovaza, everyone in the system would benefit.  The way it is, everyone in the system loses.

  • Anonymous

    8/1/2010 5:31:27 AM |

    I have always used scott emulsion. A couple tbs per day.
    is that one good?

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/2/2010 12:43:50 AM |

    Anonymous about insurance paying for supplement fish oil--

    Yes, a brilliant idea!

    I've had the same idea and wondered why an insurance company didn't just shell out the money to prove for themselves that OTC is every bit as good as the prescription, then encourage their insured to use this instead. It would provide HUGE savings with no downside.

  • Anonymous

    8/2/2010 6:16:54 AM |

    Dr Davis

    with the us treasury printing currency by the boatload if everyone operated with cost savings in mind there would be hyperinflation due to excess money floating in the economy. So government channels try to mop up and circulate as much currency as possible and keep the bottlenecks to a minimum.

    No wonder usa is looking at a consistent high inflation future or maybe hyperinflationary future.

  • Anonymous

    8/2/2010 8:13:20 PM |

    I wonder about oxidation and possible immune system suppression at the 6 gram dose level. Although I suppose in patients with high Lp(a), it's the lesser of two evils. Emulsified fish oil may be worth trying, to see if it decreases Lp(a) even further.

    Eventually Lovaza will go generic, which will be sort of odd, when prescription fish oil potentially could be in the same ballpark as OTC. Not sure how the FDA will make sense of it, unless the dosages are exactly the same... not sure how prescription fish oil ever really made sense really.

  • Anonymous

    8/2/2010 11:42:10 PM |

    Also, don't eat with fiber as this hurts absorption.  

    The following are listed in the ConsumerLab.com report, but I'm not a member so don't know how it rates:

    Twin Labs Mega EPA ( 1 capsule = Epa 550 Mg, Dha 215 Mg )
    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=TL-1403

    Nordic Natural Ultimate Omega + CoQ10  ( 2 capsules = Epa 650 Mg, Dha 450mg)
    http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Products/Product_Details/98/?ProdID=1446

    Green Pastures Fermented Cod Liver Oil and Butter Oil Blend (~139 mg EPA, ~83mg DHA),
    http://www.greenpasture.org/retail/?t=products&a=line&i=fermented-cod-liver-oil

    Vital Choice Wild Salmon Oil (240 mg EPA, 220 mg DHA)
    http://www.vitalchoice.com/product/omega-3-salmon-oil/1000-mg-sockeye-salmon-oil-softgels-180-count

    The nordic product also has 60mg of CoQ10, and 30IU of vitamin E!

  • Anonymous

    8/3/2010 1:41:04 AM |

    Dr Davis as a practicing neurosurgeon and age management doc I write for Lovaza all the time.  At least 75 Rx a month.  Does it bother me?  Yes it does.  But I feel better knowing those who are taking it are being proactive and healthy instead of a dog chasing its tail with his or her PCP.  Everything is relative my friend.  I suggest you focus in on the good because their is bad in everything but if you focus in on the good it magnifies itself.  Keep fighting the battle.  I do. I get more patients off Statins and on Fish Oil and resveratrol than you can imagine.  Love your work and the book.  I have saved lives because of you.  you passed it forward and now I do too everyday.  Dr. K

  • Anonymous

    8/3/2010 3:43:20 PM |

    Presumably, the guy has been paying his health care insurance premiums.  Based on the facts you describ, his insurance covers prescriptions for Lovaza.  Why should he have to pay additional money out of pocket to receive a benefit to which he is entitled under his insurance program?

  • Onschedule

    8/3/2010 7:02:28 PM |

    @anonymous who wrote:

    "Why should he have to pay additional money out of pocket to receive a benefit to which he is entitled under his insurance program?"

    If we focus only on an insured and his contractual rights under his insurance policy, he should not "have to pay additional money out of pocket..."

    However, that focus is arguably too narrow as it fails to consider the effect on insurance premiums for the rest of an insurance company's policy holders/payers. This is one of the evils of a system that requires citizens to obtain health insurance - it forces other people to subsidize, to use Dr. Davis's example, an expensive prescription when cheaper and equally effective alternatives exist. This is not an isolated example; consider prescription Vitamin D2 vs. D3 supplementation, etc...

  • Anonymous

    8/3/2010 7:50:48 PM |

    I can appreciate your feelings about writing such a costly perscription.  For years... when my GP would write a perscription for a cheap oc medication I just bought it without submitting the script and having my insurance incur the pharmacists dispensing fee as well as the basic cost of the OC medication. It seemed so ridiculous and costly!
    Over the years I realized that my extended benefits cost me about $3,000 out of pocket whether I use them or not.
      I figure I did not create this mess and even though it is silly I don't worry much about the costs to my insurer.
    I can see both sides of the situation. The situation is a grey area.
    I know that my insurer is in buisness to make a profit and doesn't hesitate to refuse and question claims. I figure that I am in the buisness of making the best of my  personal finances.

  • Anonymous

    8/3/2010 7:51:19 PM |

    I can appreciate your feelings about writing such a costly perscription.  For years... when my GP would write a perscription for a cheap oc medication I just bought it without submitting the script and having my insurance incur the pharmacists dispensing fee as well as the basic cost of the OC medication. It seemed so ridiculous and costly!
    Over the years I realized that my extended benefits cost me about $3,000 out of pocket whether I use them or not.
      I figure I did not create this mess and even though it is silly I don't worry much about the costs to my insurer.
    I can see both sides of the situation. The situation is a grey area.
    I know that my insurer is in buisness to make a profit and doesn't hesitate to refuse and question claims. I figure that I am in the buisness of making the best of my  personal finances.

  • stephen

    8/7/2010 6:06:18 AM |

    As a liberal, I say thank you. We can only provide health care for all, if it is affordable. Abusing the system only ensures less and less people will have access to quality health care.

  • Knox

    8/7/2010 3:03:21 PM |

    I love this article.  It makes me gag when I see commercials on TV for Lovaza or Niaspan.  This is one example of what's broken in our healthcare system.

  • Anonymous

    8/8/2010 6:20:11 PM |

    +! on the Trader Joe's omega-3 capsules. They are cheap and they have 50% concentration of combined EPA/DHA. TJ's sells two models of their omega-3 and the other has a lower concentration.

    I'll take Lovaza when it's a free sample. It has a 90% concentration but I think the overall total in Lovaza is not much higher than what is available from the local drug store.

    The only advantage Lovaza could have is that is monitored very carefully for purity and the like. I'm not sure that's much of a concern.

    -- Boris

  • Anonymous

    8/11/2010 4:53:48 PM |

    Are such high doses necessary? 7-8 grams per day of EPA/DHA seems like it would get you well past the desirable 8-10% on the HS-Omega-3 Index (usually only requiting 1-3 grams daily). Is there any need to go beyond 10%?

  • Anonymous

    8/13/2010 4:19:23 PM |

    I take 5-6 TJ omega-3 capsules during the day. Maybe that's a bit much but maybe there is a saturation point? I don't know. I know that omega-3 has cleared my mind, reduced my eye pain, and lowered my blood pressure.

    -- Boris

  • Anonymous

    8/16/2010 4:03:53 AM |

    So glad to hear it. When the ads came on TV, it was just another Big Pharma scam. Take a natural product and package it for mega profits.

  • scall0way

    8/22/2010 10:21:58 PM |

    I finally knuckled under and let my doctor write a prescrption for Niaspan for me - as we were fighting terribly as she was *ADAMANT* that I HAD to take STATINS as my cholesterol was too high (though my HDL was 62 and my triglycerides were 65) and I was flat out refusing. So she then suggested I had to take Niacin.

    I was willing to give Niacin a try as I have seen Dr. Davis talk about it here - and she just sent in the prescription via her computer to the mail-order pharmacy I'm required to use to get my prescription insurance coverage.

    So imagine my SHOCK when I got the online notice that the prescrption had been filled, and I was able to look it up. A 90-day prescription of Niaspan was about $400! I almost fainted, though my patient share was $75 - or $25/month.

    But I still thought it was highway robbery and will never fill the prescription again. If I continue t take Niacin I think it will be Slo-Niacin for me. I'd heard Niaspan was expensive, but had no clue it was that much!

  • Anonymous

    8/27/2010 9:57:38 PM |

    Dear friends,

    On Omega-3 highdoses EPA/DHA ; Minami Nutrition is providing Supecrital extraction (low temperature, and not molecular distillation!!) Omega-3 as well guaranties on purity below the detection limit next provinding a 93% Omega-3 per one softgel or 820 mg EPA/DHA per one softgel. look into www.minami-nutrition.co.uk availabel in the US at Wholefoods.

  • Anonymous

    8/27/2010 10:13:49 PM |

    Some people are worry on too much intake of fish oils. Indeed if you swallow standard fishoils with low levels of EPA/DHA as most US products you may swallow also a lot of saturated fats. Go for 1 softgel a day a softgel tahts provide you almost 1 g Omega-3 or a minimum as 820 mg EPA+DHA per softgel. a lot of brands having high levels of pcb's.(see http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/02/health/main6259938.shtml ) be also a ware when mention "per serving" could be 2 to 4 or more softels a day.  Avoid liquid oils as they oxidize fast, as well I'm not in favor of codliver oils as too low on EPA and DHA and to high on vitamin A when taking 500 mg EPA/DHA.

  • Mike OD

    9/21/2010 8:28:53 PM |

    THANK YOU!! For taking a stand where many in your profession will not. We need more of this!

  • Metal Wall Art

    10/15/2010 12:26:58 PM |

    Even the traditional medical community is finally realizing that the omega 3s in fish oil provide some of the best natural health benefits on the planet. Worldwide, the omega 3 supplement market is in the billions of dollars. The drug companies want a piece of the action.

  • fireplace screen

    10/23/2010 6:40:37 AM |

    Great insights about how we can have a healthy lifestyle.Omega 3 is good for the heart that's why many people are eating foods rich in Lycopene.

  • Chris P

    10/28/2010 4:16:06 PM |

    Vitacost.com has their own brand of fish oil, NSI Mega EFA® Omega-3 EPA & DHA.  At 6000mg EPA/DHA a day (10 capsules) in a 240 cap container for $22, that comes out to be $27.50 per month.  And they often have 10% off sales, like right now till 10/31/10.  My personal experience with them has been good, their NSI brand has been high quality, and I rarely find a better price elsewhere.  I'm currently taking 6000mg EPA/DHA daily.

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