CIS: Carbohydrate intolerance syndrome

Carbohydrate intolerance comes in many shades and colors, shapes and sizes.

I call all of its varieties the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome, or CIS. (Not to be confused with CSI, or Crime Scene Investigation . . . though, come to think of it, perhaps there are some interesting parallels!)

At its extreme, it is called type II diabetes, in which any carbohydrate generates an extravant increase in blood sugar, followed by the domino effect of increased triglycerides, reduction in HDL, creation of small LDL, heightened inflammation, etc. and eventually to kidney disease, coronary atherosclerosis, neuropathies, etc.

An intermediate form of carbohydrate intolerance is called metabolic syndrome, or pre-diabetes. These people, for the most part, look and act like diabetics, though their reaction to carbohydrate intake is not as bad. Blood sugar, for instance, might be 125 mg/dl fasting, 160 mg/dl after eating. The semi-arbitrary definition of metabolic syndrome includes at least three of the following: HDL <40 mg/dl in men, <50 mg/dl in women; triglycerides 150 mg/dl or greater; BP 135/80 or greater; waist circumference >40 inches in men, >35 inches in women; fasting glucose >100 mg/dl.

This is where the conventional definitions stop: Either you are diabetic or have metabolic syndrome, or you have nothing at all.

Unfortunately, this means that the millions of people with patterns not severe enough to match the standard definition of metabolic syndrome are often neglected.

How about Kevin?

Kevin, a 56 year old financial planner, is 5 ft 7 inches, 180 lbs (BMI 28.2). His basic measures:

HDL 36 mg/dl
Triglycerides 333 mg/dl

BP 132/78
Waist circumference 34 inches
Blood sugar 98 mg/dl

Kevin meets the criteria for metabolic syndrome on only two of the five criteria and therefore does not "qualify" for the diagnosis.

Kevin's basic lipids showed LDL 170 mg/dl, HDL 36 mg/dl, triglycerides 333 mg/dl.

But take a look at his underlying lipoprotein patterns (NMR):

LDL particle number 2231 nmol/L (equivalent to a "true" LDL of 223 mg/dl)
Small LDL 1811 nmol/l
Large HDL 0.0 mg/dl


In other words, small LDL constitutes 81% of all LDL particles (1811/2231), a severe pattern. Large HDL is the healthy, protective fraction and Kevin has none. These are high-risk patterns for heart disease. These, too, are patterns of carbohydrate intolerance.

Foods that trigger small LDL and reduction in healthy, large HDL include sugars, wheat, and cornstarch. Kevin is carbohydrate-intolerant, although he lacks the (fasting) blood sugar aspect of carbohydrate intolerance. But he shows all the underlying lipoprotein and other metabolic phenomena associated with carbohydrate intolerance.

We could also cast all three conditions under the umbrella of "insulin resistance." But I prefer Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome, or CIS, since it immediately suggests the basic underlying cause: eating carbohydrates, especially those that trigger rapid and substantial surges in blood sugar.

CIS is the Disease of the Century, judging by the figures (both numbers and humans) we are seeing. It will dominate healthcare in its various forms for many years to come.

The first treatment for the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome? Some would say the TZD class of drugs like Avandia. Others would say a DASH or TLC (American Heart Association) diet. How about liposuction, twice-daily Byetta injections, or even the emerging class of drugs to manipulate leptin and adiponectin? How do "heart healthy" foods like Cheerios and Cocoa Puffs fit into this? (Don't believe me? The American Heart Association says they're heart healthy!)

The first treatment for the Carbohydrate Intolerance Syndrome is elimination of carbohydrates, except those that come from raw nuts and seeds, vegetables, occasional real fruit (not those green fake grapes), wine, and dark chocolates.

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  • Sarah

    1/28/2009 2:45:00 PM |

    What's a "fake grape"?

  • Anonymous

    1/28/2009 4:19:00 PM |

    Do you think instant oats, or rolled oats, are ok?

    How about grits?  

    A Southerner trying to find something to replace cheerios or bagel for breakfast!  Already gave up eggs and bacon!

  • Anonymous

    1/28/2009 6:19:00 PM |

    "green fake grapes"
    - can you expand on this or provide a link to another blog entry that explains what is wrong with these? Thanks.

  • Diana Hsieh

    1/29/2009 1:09:00 AM |

    Anonymous -- Why give up eggs and bacon?  Reducing carbs requires increasing fat intake -- and contrary to the conventional wisdom, that's a good thing for your health.  (See Gary Taubes' _Good Calories, Bad Calories_.)

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 1:43:00 AM |

    Green grapes:  negligible amounts of reversatol.

    AJL

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 2:30:00 AM |

    Yes, I'd like to know if carbs like whole, cooked oat groats and/or wild rice are okay on TYP?  These are the only grains my cardiologist allows on his program.

    Also, what about oat bran, both cooked and uncooked?

    And lastly, ground flax seed?

    madcook

  • Anne

    1/29/2009 3:06:00 AM |

    Anonymous ~ bring back the eggs. add some veges and cheese and that makes a great breakfast. When I eat bacon I buy the stuff without the nitrites. My breakfast often looks like my dinner - lots of low carb veges and protein.

    I am a Southerner and grits are too high carb for me - shoots my blood sugar up to 200. Yup, I have CIS or maybe it is T2DM. Whatever I have, keeping my carbs low seems to be working well.

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 4:05:00 AM |

    what's a fake grape?

  • Anna

    1/29/2009 7:59:00 AM |

    Salmon is great for breakfast, either leftover from dinner or cured salmon (gravlax).  So is a salami and cheese plate now and then, for variety.  Breakfast doesn't have to be sweet or  grainy, if one can get out of that mindset.  

    Avocado omelet, sausage (make 2-3 days worth at one time and reheat), baked custard, smoothies.  There are all sorts of great non-grain breakfasts.

  • Grapes of wrath

    1/29/2009 12:22:00 PM |

    Can't say I have heard of fake grapes, well maybe the plastic ones.

  • keith

    1/29/2009 1:17:00 PM |

    fake grapes are seedless green grapes that are effectively candy. fruit with seeds that are close to the way they occurred in nature before we mass produced them are healthier.

  • Dr. William Davis

    1/29/2009 2:19:00 PM |

    Madcook--

    All are fine, with little rise in blood sugar except for the oat products, which can raise blood sugar in very carb-sensitive people.

    Ground flaxseed is the very best, with pure protein, oils (including linolenic acid), and fiber but with no digestible starches.

  • Anonymous

    1/29/2009 3:37:00 PM |

    This blog is great, that's why I added it to my top ten health blogs. www.mydailywellnesstip.com

    Jean-Luc Boissonneault

  • Frederick

    1/29/2009 7:01:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    I recently received some curious results on my blood panels and am curious for your feedback. I am sorry to trouble you with my personal story but am not sure where else to go for info. I appreciate any help you can provide, in addition to what you have already done with this blog, which is a terrific resource.

    In May 2007 my blood panel looked like this:

    Total cholesterol 155
    Trigylcerides 65
    HDL 50
    LDL (calc) 92

    In Jan 2009 I received the following:

    Total cholesterol 311!
    Trigylcerides 43
    HDL 88
    LDL (calc) 214!

    I am currently 41, athletic, do high intensity short duration exercise 3-4 times/wk, low body fat, fairly good health. I changed my diet in Jan 2008 from a standard "healthy" diet to paleo style after reading Cordain's book. I followed Cordain's recommendations fairly closely for about six months, eating lots of fruits and veggies, lean meat (trimming the fat), very few starches, and nuts seeds avocados, olive oil, etc. In summer I began reading some blogs and books which recommended a diet higher in sat fats, lower in protein and lower in PUFAs, so I made some changes by severely limiting PUFAs (no more nuts, less fatty chicken and pork) and eating fattier red meat, coconut oil. I also cut down on veggies and fruits and added starches and white rice.

    While I would consider myself a little skeptical about the meaning of cholesterol tests, I am by no means an expert and was amazed by the increase in cholesterol and am very curious what this means and why. I understand that some of the numbers here (e.g. total cholesterol) don't mean much, that some of the numbers (e.g. hdl/tris ratio) are good, that LDL calc is often inaccurate, and that based on my low tris, my LDL is likely to be large and fluffy instead of small and dense. But I am still amazed by the rise and curious what it means. Should I be concerned? Why did this happen so fast? Thanks again for any guidance you can provide.

  • Dr. William Davis

    1/29/2009 10:33:00 PM |

    Frederick--

    While I don't make a habit out of responding to personal questions (because they would overwhelm time demands), your changes are quite profound.

    However, there are a number of underlying processes that could account for such a change. One solution would be to obtain lipoprotein analysis to see what the true, underlying patterns are, e.g., what is measured LDL?

    Also, consider thyroid issues.

    Also consider consulting the Track Your Plaque program, in which these discussions are conducted in detail every day.

  • Anna

    1/29/2009 11:13:00 PM |

    Frederick,

    While my numbers are not exactly the same as yours (past and present), they show a similar trend since I have adopted a more paleo-oriented diet, starting about 5 years ago.  The main difference is that I am female, 47 yo (not menopausal yet, and I wouldn't call myself athletic.  I really haven't been worried about the lab numbers, though they raise my endocrinologists eyebrows.  I had my first coronary calcium scan in Dec '08 and my score was 0, no evidence of coronary artery plaque.

    Have you had a coronary calcium scan yet?  That should tell you if your coronary arteries are building plaque or not.  And of course, the detailed analysis of your lipoproteins needs to be done, too, as Dr.Davis mentioned.  

    Keep in mind, the vast majority of the studies and references for  "good" or "bad" lab results in "Westernized" people come from people who *don't* eat paleo.  So there really isn't much of a comparison data base for those Westerners who eat paleo.  Peter at Hyperlipid blog has some discussion of this "lack of comparison data issue".

  • Anonymous

    1/30/2009 4:49:00 AM |

    Frederick,

    Please join us over on the Track Your Plaque membership website.  We routinely discuss issues such as yours, there is a wealth of information there beyond Dr. Davis' book, and we are a friendly, supportive, and well informed group.

    That aside, it appears you have gotten standard blood testing.  Please get an NMR lipoprofile, Berkeley or VAP test done... you will learn so much more.

    You were eating Paleo, but then you've cut out nuts and I see this little kicker: " I also cut down on veggies and fruits and added starches and white rice."  Hummmm... that is definitely not Paleo anymore, and if you are indeed carb sensitive, those additions could completely tip the cart and put you where you appear to be now.

    And I see that Dr. Davis has mentioned thyroid issues... get your doctor to test for those.  You are now "of an age" where these issues begin to express themselves.

    If you have not had one, go get a heart scan.  You will then know where you stand with regard to plaque formation.  BTW, I am talking about a simple heart scan, not the whiz bang 64-slice thing with the big dose of radiation.  Knowledge is power in this regard.

    I have no affiliation with Dr. Davis nor Track Your Plaque, other than as a very satisfied member/subscriber for the past several years.  I would feel alone and bewildered by such issues, were it not for TYP, which is IMO the most cutting edge program available.

    Good luck to you in finding answers to your personal situation.

    madcook

  • Nameless

    1/30/2009 9:25:00 PM |

    Frederick--

    Your rise in LDL... could it simply because you increased saturated fat intake? Your HDL also increased, which would make sense too. And trigs went down.

    Whether or not this is a good thing, I'm not sure. But increased animal fats usually equals higher LDL, higher HDL, lowered trigs (assuming fats replace carb intake).

    Have you measured your C-reactive protein before and after this diet change? I'm curious if saturated fats cause more inflammation, or less.

  • Dr. B G

    1/31/2009 2:12:00 AM |

    Frederick, Diana Hsieh:

    I don't worry about your LDL -- again it is a faulty inaccurate measure as Dr. D talked about in the 'Tale of Two LDL's post.

    Your TGs are Excellent!!

    Your HDLS totally ROCK and are the envy of anyone who knows anything about heart disease (or cancer).

    If you NMR'd or VAP'd your particles -- you would find that they are ALL Large, nice fluffy PHAT buoyant particles (just like Jimmy Moore's who has a similar diet/lifestyle as you two -- no grains, low carb, mod prot, mod-high fat and exercise).

    Likewise, you'll likely find that your HDL2b which are the regressive particles and necessary for optimal longevity and health will be stunning and awesome.

    Keep up the strong work and let us know if you get a particle count and density evaluated (~$99).

    -G

  • Dr. B G

    1/31/2009 2:12:00 AM |

    Frederick, Diana Hsieh:

    I don't worry about your LDL -- again it is a faulty inaccurate measure as Dr. D talked about in the 'Tale of Two LDL's post.

    Your TGs are Excellent!!

    Your HDLS totally ROCK and are the envy of anyone who knows anything about heart disease (or cancer).

    If you NMR'd or VAP'd your particles -- you would find that they are ALL Large, nice fluffy PHAT buoyant particles (just like Jimmy Moore's who has a similar diet/lifestyle as you two -- no grains, low carb, mod prot, mod-high fat and exercise).

    Likewise, you'll likely find that your HDL2b which are the regressive particles and necessary for optimal longevity and health will be stunning and awesome.

    Keep up the strong work and let us know if you get a particle count and density evaluated (~$99).

    -G

  • Anonymous

    1/31/2009 9:05:00 PM |

    Frederick-

    I think your changes are a simple result of "added starches and white rice".
    As you can see from this post from Dr. Davis just days ago, lipid levels can change dramatically and quickly with the added starches.


    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/making-sense-out-of-lipid-changes.html

  • Trinkwasser

    2/2/2009 6:57:00 PM |

    Here's a big amen! to this post. My FBG is usually under 90 and never over 100. My GTT came back at 193 so "not diabetic" (I've since managed "truly" diabetic numbers by eating on top of a liver dump, but they are unofficial, measured on my own meter.)

    BMI about 22 so not overweight. Fit and active.

    So the ADA calculator still tells me I am at "low risk of diabetes" and that's what doctors have told me all my life despite the most horrendous lipids, including gallstones in my twenties, rising BP, episodes going back 50 years of what I now know to be reactive hypoglycemia (they knock my A1c right down)including ferocious night sweats in childhood. And of course all the other symptoms of diabetes, nocturia, chronic skin infections etc. all blown off because I didn't show that magic FBG rise.

    Curiously all these "neurotic" "hypochondriac" "anxiety" "depression" "pretending to be ill for sympathy" "personality disorder" symptoms have normalised by doing one thing: eating the exact opposite of the "Heart Healthy" diet - so long as I keep carbs to about 60g with the odd excursion to 100g or so I produce better numbers than a lot of "normies".

    Genealogical research shows the family is riddled with "metabolic syndrome" in non-obese people along with other diabetics who were also skinny Type 2s. I don't know how many other families, let alone individuals, have these obvious but not diagnosed type patterns.

    Or how many of them could be so comparatively easily treated.

    Well OK I cheat a bit, an ARB and a statin helps with the BP and LDL but they might not have been necessary if the thing had been caught earlier, or its comparatively slow progression hadn't been speeded up courtesy of the dietician.

    Yes it doesn't take a CSI to diagnose CIS. Just someone who looks at the Big Picture.

    My worst carbohydrate is wheat, spikes my BG about as bad as sugar, I can manage small quantities in the evening though. Fruit is nearly as bad except for berries.

    I shudder at all that healthy muesli I used to shovel into my face for breakfast and swill down with orange juice. I shudder more when I see the dietician's smile of approval.

    I can handle small quantities of oatcakes at breakfast, I favour high protein moderate fat and especially fish and salad, with other meats as a change. I can do ryebread in small quantities by lunchtime. I'd eat eggs if I could stand the taste.

    Carb input goes up on a slope from 15g at breakfast to 30g and sometimes 50g by evening. Masses of veggies, fish, meat, nuts and cheese and the occasional 85% chocolate make up the rest of my diet (oh and the coffee, and red wine, so not entirely paleo).

    None of this came from Medical Professionals in real life, it all came from the interweb and was run past my BG meter. Maybe by the 22nd century it will be mainstream and the Heart Healthy High Carb Low Fat diet will be consigned to the history books as a failed experiment on an entire population.

  • Dr. William Davis

    2/2/2009 10:38:00 PM |

    Trinkwasser--

    Thanks for sharing your wonderfully insightful experience.

    Do I have your permission to feature your comment as the focus of a blog post?

  • Trinkwasser

    2/6/2009 9:07:00 PM |

    You're more than welcome! I like to get my story out as it is a direct opposite of the standard "you made yourself ill through sloth and gluttony" accusation. Big major thanks must go to my late Aunt who did a lot of the genealogical research which discovered the pattern (she was told at 80 she had the blood pressure of a 30 year old, I was the exact opposite!) and died at 88 of an aneurysm: this despite being slightly overweight. So the genes can be survivable so long as we are careful!

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    4/3/2009 12:29:00 PM |

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  • Timothy Murphy, MD

    4/18/2009 4:14:00 PM |

    The amazing story of the ascent of the Keys Hypothesis regarding the connection between dietary fat and heart disease is well documented in "Good Calories, Bad Calories", by Gary Taubes.

    As a pediatrician, I do not often counsel about heart disease. But I do deal with obesity in children, and as I am now in my 50's, I am caring more because of my own health.

    The bottom line is that virtually everything we learned about preventing heart disease in medical school is wrong or untested, and an alternative hypothesis has existed that has been largely untested - yet is simpler (and therefore better).

    The role of glucose and insulin in the evolution of obesity and the development of heart disease is finally becoming clear(er), and with the definition of the Metabolic Syndrome, is becoming more "main stream". But the primary drivers of policy (NIH/NHLBI, FDA and ASDA) will not change their recommendations regarding carbohydrate intake.

    It is time for individuals to take charge of their own diet, and the information I have found here is all to the good. I am glad I found this blog.

    TM, Pittsburgh

  • Kelvin

    9/4/2009 12:45:22 PM |

    I am a classic CSI class and after running 5km for 1 1/2 years my blood stayed CSI classic as well, I didn'y follow a good diet but kept my weight down due to excerise - so then it happened - ventricle fibrulation - down for 6 min not breathing while I was shocked and had CPR - had bypass surgery - 46 yrs - read my story google "A hug for his life savers". Following a low card diet now my email is kwillikj@gmail.com

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 2:41:40 PM |

    Foods that trigger small LDL and reduction in healthy, large HDL include sugars, wheat, and cornstarch. Kevin is carbohydrate-intolerant, although he lacks the (fasting) blood sugar aspect of carbohydrate intolerance. But he shows all the underlying lipoprotein and other metabolic phenomena associated with carbohydrate intolerance.

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Texas today, tomorrow . . . the world?

Texas today, tomorrow . . . the world?

Texas state representative, Rene Oliveira, has introduced legislation that mandates heart scans for adults in the state of Texas.

Rep. Oliveira

A press release from the SHAPE Society ( Society for Heart Attack Prevention and Eradication) reads:

Assessment of heart attack risk on the basis of traditional risk factors alone such as high cholesterol and high blood pressure and so forth, while useful, misses many who are at high risk and also incorrectly flags some for high risk who are in fact at very low risk of near term heart attack; on the other hand detection of atherosclerosis by non-invasive imaging, as suggested by the SHAPE group, accurately identifies plaque and improves the ability to identify at-risk individuals who could benefit from aggressive preventive intervention while sparing low-risk subjects from unnecessary aggressive medical therapy," said Dr. P.K. Shah, Director of Cardiology at Cedars Sinai Heart Institute in Los Angeles, a leading member of the SHAPE Task Force who is also an active member of the American Heart Association. "Sadly, these vulnerable patients go undetected until struck by a heart attack, because insurance companies don't cover the newer heart attack screening imaging tests."


Rep. Oliveira, whose coronary disease was first uncovered by a heart scan and prompted a bypass operation, states:

"It is about time that we cover preventive screening for the number one killer in Texas, and take action to reduce healthcare costs through preventive healthcare. Right now, we are extending the lives of those who can afford the procedure while hundreds of thousands of Texans with hidden heart disease go undetected because of antiquated thinking. The time has come for this change."


Is this what we've come to? Since practicing physicians are either so entranced by the drug and procedural solutions to heart disease, do we need to resort to heart scan by legislation?

It does indeed appear that we've come to this point. Should this trend catch on, it will surely mean an upfront increase in healthcare costs to cover the expense of heart scans. But in the long run, it will mean reduction in healthcare costs--dramatic reduction--if heart scans prompt effective preventive action.
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Fasting and heart disease

Fasting and heart disease

Followers of the Track Your Plaque program know that we advocate periodic fasts to reduce heart disease risk.

I came across an interesting report form an abstract presented at last week's American Heart Association meetings in Orlando:

(Read the report at HeartWire. You will need to register or sign-in.)

In this study, the investigators tried to determine why members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) tended to have reduced risk of heart disease compared to others in the area but not in the LDS faith. While the reduced risk of heart disease in LDS members had been traditionally attributed to the no smoking policy advocated by the Mormon church, the investigators suspected that there was more to the reduced risk.

Of 515 people interviewed, periodic fasting, whether for religious or other reasons, was found to distinguish people who were less likely to have coronary disease by conventional catheterization (59% vs. 67%). (Since the study was published in only abstract form, it's not clear why all these people underwent heart catheterization in the first place.)

Nonetheless, it's an interesting observation and one consistent with the benefits we see when someone fasts: reduced blood pressure, reduced inflammatory responses, improved lipids and lipoproteins, weight loss.

Fasting can be an especially effective method to gain control over heart disease and coronary plaque if rapid control is desired. In fact, I wonder if the normally year-long process of plaque control that I advocate can be much abbreviated. Fasting, I believe, is a crucial component of rapid control, what I've talked about in Instant Heart Disease Reversal

There's also additional thoughts on fasting in my Heart Scan Blog post, For rapid success, try the "fast" track.

Fasting is not something to fear. It can be an enlightening process that can serve to abruptly sever bad habits, perhaps even turn the clock back on prior dietary and lifestyle excesses. My favorite variation on fasting is to use soy milk (yes, yes, I know! I can already hear the the soy bashers screaming!) as a meal substitute. It is an easy, less dramatic way that still maintains most of the benefit of a full, water-only fast.

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  • Thomas

    11/14/2007 5:20:00 AM |

    I haven't read the article, but I wonder if insulin would be statistically different in a group of periodic fasters than the general pop. I also wonder if running a lower average insulin level makes it relatively easier to fast; those with higher insulin levels might find the food urges too strong to resist, or get other side effects trying to fast.

    Dr. Davis, any thoughts on insulin levels as a reflection of cardiac status, or as a marker of success with dietary changes?

  • Dr. Davis

    11/14/2007 12:54:00 PM |

    I don't know of any direct evidence, but I have seen such phenomena repeatedly in people following heathier diets and exercise programs: a drop in insulin, a drop in blood sugar, parallel with improvements in lipids and lipoproteins.  

    I also don't know if a reduced insulin level per se makes fasting easier, but I do find that people who eat better find it easier. The Twinkies-soda pop set find fasting impossibly difficult and lose interest within a few hours, or simply are terrified of trying due to insatiable hunger.

  • Sue

    11/16/2007 3:30:00 AM |

    Dr Davis,
    Is there another subsitute for soy milk?  Perhaps some kind of protein shake along with the vegie juice will suffice?  Is the fast for 2 days only or can you do it longer?

  • Dr. Davis

    11/16/2007 12:15:00 PM |

    Hi, Sue--

    I fear I've oversimplified just to make a point.

    There are indeed variations of "fasts" such as juice fasts, soy milk fasts, or other severe calorie-restrictions, such as vegetable only diets. Two resources for far more detailed discussion of the how-to's and pitfalls can be found in the www.trackyourplaque.com Special Report, Fasting: Fast Track to Control Plaque, or Dr. Joel Furhman's book, Fasting and Eating for Health.

  • mrfreddy

    11/16/2007 7:18:00 PM |

    I started an intermittent fasting program known as fast-5 (fast-5.com) a couple of months ago. You skip breakfast and lunch-it's tough at first but you really do get used to it-and then have a glorious feast at dinner time. I'm doing it primarily as way to cut down calories while still enjoying great low carb food. The fact that it reduces inflammation, etc. is just a nice bonus!

  • Nancy M.

    11/23/2007 6:09:00 PM |

    Me again, just found this regarding fasting and blood sugar normalization.  I thought you might be interested in it.  It's a fellow with T2 diabetes who lowered his blood sugar with intermittent fasting.

    http://shurie.com/lee/writing_defeat_diabetes.htm

  • Dr. Davis

    11/24/2007 1:07:00 AM |

    Hi, Nancy--

    What an interesting story!

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    10/30/2010 3:44:57 AM |

    Hi. I am trained as food scientist with additional training in exercise physiology. I have decided to go on a 10 day water fast (with vitamins and electrolytes). After 3 days I feel fantastic and am starting to lose the small amount of belly fat. I have absolutely no hunger.

  • blogblog

    10/30/2010 3:47:50 AM |

    It should be remembered that hunter-gathers have highly variable kilojoule intakes varying from periodic gluttony to short periods of near starvation.

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 2:32:46 PM |

    Nonetheless, it's an interesting observation and one consistent with the benefits we see when someone fasts: reduced blood pressure, reduced inflammatory responses, improved lipids and lipoproteins, weight loss.

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Don't overdo the vitamin D

Don't overdo the vitamin D

As time passes and I advise more and more people to supplement vitamin D, I gain increasing respect for this powerful "vitamin". I am convinced that vitamin D replacement is the reason for a recent surge in our success rates in dropping CT heart scan scores. I believe it is also explains the larger drops we've been witnessing lately--20-30%.

But vitamin D can be overdone, too. Too much of a good thing . . .

Despite being labeled a "vitamin", cholecalciferol is actually a hormone. Vitamins are obtained from food and you can thereby develop deficiencies because of poor intake. Deficiency of vitamin C, for instance, arises from a lack of vegetables and fruits.

Vitamin D, on the other hand, is nearly absent from food. The only naturally-occuring source is oily fish like salmon and sardines. Milk usually has a little (100 units per 8 oz) because milk producers have been required by law to put it there to reduce the incidence of childhood rickets.

A woman came to me with a heart scan score of nearly 3800, the highest score I've every seen in a woman. (Record for a male >8,000!) She was taking vitamin D by prescription from her family doctor but at a dose of 150,000 units per week, or approximately 21,000 units per day. This had gone on for about 3-4 years. This may explain her excessive coronary calcium score. Interestingly, she had virtually no lipoprotein abnormalities identified, which by itself is curious, since most people have some degree of abnormality like small LDL. Obviously, I asked her to stop the vitamin D.

Should you be afraid of vitamin D? Of course not. If your neighbor is an alcoholic and has advanced cirrhosis, does that mean you shouldn't have a glass or two of Merlot for health and enjoyment? It's a matter of quantity. Too little vitamin D and you encourage coronary plaque growth. Too much vitamin D and you trigger "pathologic calcification", or the deposition of calcium in inappropriate places and sometimes to extreme degrees, as in this unfortunate woman.

Ideally, you should have your doctor check your 25-OH-vitamin D3 blood levels twice a year in summar and in winter. We aim for a level of 50 ng/ml, the level at which the phenemena of deficiency dissipate.

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  • curious

    11/5/2007 9:06:00 PM |

    Don't forget Vitamine K's role! MK4 should be taken along such high D3 doses. Actually, i recomend some anyway.

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Flush-free niacin kills

Flush-free niacin kills

Here, I re-post a conversation I've posted before, that of the scam product, "no-flush" niacin, also known as "flush-free" niacin.

I find this issue particularly bothersome, since I have a patient or two each and every week who forgets the explicit advice I gave them to avoid these scam products altogether. Despite costing more than conventional niacin, they exert no effect, beneficial or otherwise. Niacin--the real thing--exerts real and substantial beneficial effects. No-flush or flush-free does nothing except drain your wallet. I continue to marvel at the fact that supplement manufacturers persist in selling this product. Ironically, it commands a significant premium over other niacin forms.

They are outright scams that should be avoided altogether.


My former post, No-flush niacin kills:

Gwen was miserable and defeated.

No wonder. After a bypass operation failed just 12 months earlier with closure of 3 out of 4 bypass grafts, she has since undergone 9 heart catheterization procedures and received umpteen stents. She presented to me for an opinion on why she had such aggressive coronary disease (despite Lipitor).

No surprise, several new causes of heart disease were identified, including a very severe small LDL pattern: 100% of LDL particles were small.

Given her stormy procedural history, I urged Gwen to immediately drop all processed carbohydrates from her diet, including any food made from wheat or corn starch. (She and her husband were shocked by this, by the way, since she'd been urged repeatedly to increase her whole grains by the hospital dietitians.) I also urged her to begin to lose the 30 lbs of weight that she'd gained following the hospital dietitians' advice. She also added fish oil at a higher-than-usual dose.

I asked her to add niacin, among our most effective agents for reduction of small LDL particles, not to mention reduction of the likelihood of future cardiovascular events.

Although I instructed Gwen on where and how to obtain niacin, she went to a health food store and bought "no-flush niacin," or inositol hexaniacinate. She was curious why she experienced none of the hot flush I told her about.

When she came back to the office some weeks later to review her treatment program, she told me that chest pains had returned. On questioning her about what she had changed specifically, the problem became clear: She'd been taking no-flush niacin, rather than the Slo-Niacin I had recommended.

What is no-flush niacin? It is inositol hexaniacinate, a molecule that indeed carries six niacin molecules attached to an inositol backbone. Unfortunately, it exerts virtually no effect in humans. It is a scam. Though I love nutritional supplements in general, it pains me to know that supplement distributors and health food stores persist in selling this outright scam product that not only fails to exert any of the benefits of real niacin, it also puts people like Gwen in real danger because of its failure to provide the effects she needed.

So, if niacin saves lives, no-flush niacin in effect could kill you. Avoid this scam like the plague.

No-flush niacin does not work. Period.


Disclosure: I have no financial or other relationship with Upsher Smith, the manufacturer of Slo-Niacin.


Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Comments (12) -

  • JPB

    11/29/2008 4:15:00 PM |

    What is your opinion of "Nia-Span"?  My former doctor insisted that this "by prescription only" drug was the only way to take niacin.  The cost per month was virtually the same as for a statin.  (BTW, I declined this product and continued with regular niacin.)

  • Anna

    11/29/2008 4:31:00 PM |

    FYI: the Slo-Niacin link isn't working.

  • Zbig

    11/29/2008 11:02:00 PM |

    RDA for niacin is 18 mg/day - what is your opinion on that, sir?
    BTW, do you guys in the States just go to a pharmacy and buy niacin and D3 without a prescription?

  • Anonymous

    11/30/2008 6:37:00 AM |

    "Slo-Niacin" uses a "polygel" to delay release of the nicotinic acid.  I've been taking Carlson's "Niacin-Time" (also nicotinic acid) which uses brazil wax to delay release.

    The Carlson's product is about a third the price of the Slo-Niacin.

  • IggyDalrymple

    12/1/2008 1:13:00 AM |

    I've been taking regular (not no-flush) niacin for a few months.  Dr Davis recommends "Slo-Niacin" but I got sick from taking timed-release niacin back in the 80s and "Slo-Niacin" sounds suspiciously like "Timed-Release".  I should know in January when I have bloodwork, if the regular niacin helps.

  • Anonymous

    12/3/2008 9:26:00 PM |

    JPB: Niaspan releases over 6-8 hours and yes..it is prescription only. I substituted it for Endur-acin which is MUCH cheaper and non-prescription and also releases over 6-8 hours. No difference in my lipid profiles...just big savings in my pocket book.

    Zbig: 18mg is probably sufficient as a RDA, but in order to achieve the lipid lowering affects from Niacin, one has to take larger doses of 500mg or more from what I understand. And yes, we can buy many supplements like (high dose) niacin, vitamin D3 & even DHEA without a prescription here in the USA.

    Anonymous: I believe Carlson buys their "Niacin-Time" from Endur. I looked at the picture on the Carlson website and the tablets are the exact same shape as Endur-acin. Endur has been around since the late 1980's from what I understand. You can buy direct from Endur.

    IggyDalrmple: Here is a link to an excellent article about (time-release) Niacin written by Doctor Davis himself:

    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/mar2007_atd_01.htm

  • CindynHouston

    2/3/2009 5:15:00 AM |

    Hi, Id like to know what research supports flush free Niacin has no effect on the human body ?
    I had/have horrible heart palpitations after a heart attack, and after taking Flush Free Niacin 2 to 3 times daily, control them, while time released I tried did not .. and Im afraid to take regular Niacin being so unstable.  I take several other things as well now, but not at the beginning.  I have Late Stage Lyme which has its own set of causal factors as well as the typical ones, but if it has no effect on the human body .. it wouldnt work period.  So, I would guess ..  like all else one thing might work for some, another substance for another depending on what I wish they would narrow down to "Cause".  I still have high Blood pressure, some medications work for a week or two, then stop being effective.  Areas of the brain control heart beat .. I have no clue if this is the whats causing high blood pressure or not .. Lyme can go any where and do anything .. Ive had it since I was a child with mild symptoms until my immune system got a faulty in mid thirties when it became aggressive.  No Doctors know how to treat other than antibiotics, dont treat symptoms like really bad hypercoagulation (thick blood) caused by being exposed to bacteria etc for a long period of time and the immune system becoming over active .. 2002 I had an attack which took me out almost completely .. No heart or other doctor even tried to diagnose and gave me a "hearts fine" .. 3 yrs later I had an almost deadly heart attack.  All these yrs, almost 10 .. spent trying to find help, treating symptoms on my own, having no family and absolutely No life, except for trying to survive. (people with Lyme ramble) Though its good to know info.... Question still remains about Flush Free Niacin...

  • Anonymous

    8/25/2009 9:29:49 PM |

    "IHN is more effective than niacin in its hypocholesterolemic,
    antihypertensive and lipotropic effects"
    Welsh AL, Eade M. Inositol hexanicotinate for improved nicotinic acid therapy.
    Int Record Med 1961;174:9-15.

    "significant lipid-lowering effects of IHN at doses of 400 mg 3-4 times daily"
    Dorner V, Fischer FW. The influence of m-inositol hexanicotinate ester on the serum lipids and lipoproteins. Arzneim-Forsch 1961;11:110-113.

    Sommer H. Nicotinic acid levels in the blood and fibrinolysis under the influence of the hexanicotinic ester of m-inositol. Arzneim Forsch. 1975;15:1337

    "IHN was found to be more effective than niacin in reducing hypercholesterolemia"
    El-Enein AMA, Hafez YS, Salem H, Abdel M. The role of nicotinic acid and inositol hexaniacinate as anticholesterolemic and antilipemic agents.
    Nutr Reports Int 1983;28:899-911.

    "Derivatives of niacin have been examined for their ability to alter lipid levels as well as niacin. It would be advantageous if the niacin vasodilation (flush) were eliminated or removed. The main disadvantage of the niacin derivatives will be cost. Inositol hexanicotinate is an ester of inositol and niacin. In the body it is slowly hydrolyzed releasing both of these important nutrients. The ester is more effective than niacin in lowering cholesterol and triglyceride levels, Abou El-Enein, Hafez, Salem and Abdel (1983). I have used this compound, Linodil, available in Canada but not the U.S.A. (at the time this paper was written) for thirty years for patients who can not or will not tolerate the flush. It is very gentle, effective, and can be tolerated by almost every person who uses it."
    From: Niacin, Coronary Disease and Longevity by Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D.

  • LynP

    11/16/2009 5:25:16 AM |

    Question:  at dinner took 500 mgm Slo-Niacin and within a few hrs had some stomach unpleasant...sensations might be the best description, then my glucose rose.  Fasting rose 25 pts (shock) and yesterday was marked with ravenous hunger and 15-20 pts higher glucose all day; today's fasting was still higher than usual.  Is this expected?  It's almost as if it is undoing the work of my 1500 mg metformin ER in reducing the production of sugar in the liver. This isn't going to wk with higher glucose.  Suggestions? Comments?
    6/25/09 labs: TRI-119, calc LDL-150, HDL-57, D-35, TSH-4.5, AIC-6.4. Taking 12.5 mg Maxzide, 4K IU D3.
    9/22/09 labs: TRI-145, calc LDL-147, HDL-60, D-41, TSH-5.5, AIC-6.5, ApoB-111. Taking 12.5 mg Maxzide, 8K IU D3.
    Doc put me on 25 mcg levothyroxine (don't think this is enough or I need Armour).

    I think my TRI is up from too much carb (eat super low, ate a bit more more berries over summer).  I think my LDL is up from my rising TSH (free T4 & T3 midrange), been rising since Sept08 when it was 2.8 (when I started taking vit D). Wt loss (obese) has been stalled until I started subbing eggs for hi-protein shake with 2-3 ozs coconut milk a month ago.  TSH was high in 2001 (4.7) with high amts of reverse T3 (doc won't test for it)& given 2 mcg Cytomel but my TC was 205 with TRI=100. Now what to do?  Try the 250 mgm SloNiacin & see what happens?  Or just concentrate on improving D levels and improving thyroid function and hoping they help normalize lipids? Just looking for suggestions, not treatment, all ideas will be run by doc. He said statins or niacin...I'm female no familiy hist of heart probs, why statins with no good studies for women? 'Cause he takes a statin *sigh*.

  • Anonymous

    8/16/2010 3:17:08 AM |

    After my heart attack from Late Stage Lyme Disease causing hypercoagulation/thick blood .. after released from the hospital, I had/have severe heart palpatations .. and IM SORRY BUT, FLUSH FREE NIACIN DOES WORK!!  I have to take 2-500mg twice daily and it stops the heart palpatations .. its no gimmick or hype.  IT Works !!  Ive heard about the severe very uncomfortable flush rush with regular Niacin which I think would scare me and make me panick, if not make me ill with the fragile state my system is in.  Purchased at any store online or otherwise .. a lot less than and w/no side effects, I also take Argnine to help open my vessels, but is not needed to stop my heart palpatations. Obviously, something is wrong though if I or anyone is having heart palpatation, so you should keep looking or asking RN/head nurse until you find a heart doctor who will actually address the issue and find out whats going on!!  Once in a while with stressful event I do need to take a beta blocker to stop palpations, but only 3-5 times a yr.  NO SIDE EFFECTS like beta blockers...

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Normal fasting glucose with high HbA1c

Normal fasting glucose with high HbA1c

Jonathan's fasting glucose: 85 mg/dl
His HbA1c: 6.7%

Jonathan's high HbA1c reflects blood glucose fluctuations over the preceding 60-90 days and can be used to calculate an estimated average glucose (eAG) with the following equation:

eAG = 28.7 X A1c – 46.7

(For glucose in mmol/L, the equation is eAG = 1.59 × A1C - 2.59)

Jonathan's HbA1c therefore equates to an eAG of 145.59 mg/dl--yet his fasting glucose value is 85 mg/dl. 

This is a common situation: Normal fasting glucose, high HbA1c. It comes from high postprandial glucose values, high values after meals. 

It suggests that, despite having normal glucose while fasting, Jonathan experiences high postprandial glucose values after many or most of his meals. After a breakfast of oatmeal, for instance, he likely has a blood glucose of 150 mg/dl or greater. After breakfast cereal, blood glucose likely exceeds 180 mg/dl. With two slices of whole wheat bread, glucose likewise likely runs 150-180 mg/dl. 

The best measure of all is a postprandial glucose one hour after the completion of a meal, a measure you can easily obtain yourself with a home glucose meter. Second best: fasting glucose with HbA1c.

Gain control over this phenomenon and you 1) reduce fasting blood sugar, 2) reduce expression of small LDL particles, and 3) lose weight.  

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  • Mark

    3/23/2010 5:56:04 PM |

    So what is the basic recommendation here?
    Eat meat, nuts, vegetables, no starch, no fruit? A ketogenic diet?

    It looks like the recommendation is to avoid blood sugar spikes primarily. I would think that insulin is less of a worry because insulin doesn't necessarily mean that sugar is in the system (dairy for example).

    Some clarification would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

  • Anonymous

    3/23/2010 6:44:31 PM |

    Dr. Davis, my husband has the opposite problem, can you (or anyone else) explain it?  His 1-hour postprandial glucose never exceeds 90 and yet he has an HBA1C of 5.9.  We have checked his glucose at different times and it never goes over 100.  He is on a very low carb diet.  

    His HBA1C indicates an average blood glucose of 123, but we never see readings this high.  Is there something else that can glycating hemoglobin and thus show an elevated HBA1C reading?

  • Anonymous

    3/23/2010 7:03:19 PM |

    What would be considered an optimal (or at least good) HbA1c level? And same for fasting glucose?

    I have noticed my fasting glucose tends to vary, between 80-95, with my HbA1c at 4.6.

    Curious also if there is any data on HbA1c correlating directly with triglyceride levels.

    My own trig values are higher than I like, around 125-150, yet I limit carbs, use fish oil, and think my HbA1c number is relatively decent.  So wondering if carbs/glucose isn't my problem, what else raises triglycerides?

  • Jake P.

    3/23/2010 10:30:18 PM |

    Dr Davis, do you have any recommendations on blood glucose test meters, as far as brand/model? Also, I'd prefer something that doesn't require a prescription, if possible.

  • Dr. William Davis

    3/24/2010 1:41:43 AM |

    Anon--

    The only two causes I am aware of are 1) iron deficiency anemia, and 2) hemoglobin variants.

    Also, are you confident of the accuracy of your blood glucose meter? You can check it by running side-by-side glucoses with a blood draw.

  • Dr. William Davis

    3/24/2010 1:42:31 AM |

    I've had good experiences with One Touch Ultramini, Aviva, Relion, and Accuchek meters. All are available without prescription.

  • Anonymous

    3/24/2010 5:26:17 AM |

    This is exactly why everybody should have a blood glucose meter, and know their numbers.

    While I have not been diagnosed as having type 2 diabetes, I was darned close.  My meter, and the information found here and in the blogs that link to and from it, have helped me to lose about 3 pounds per week for the past 6 months, and not be hungry or feel deprived.

    I was like Jonathan.  Until 6 months ago my fasting glucose was always under 100.  Now that I am managing to keep my average BG reading, including post prandial readings, under 95, I have stopped suffering from the inflammatory symptoms I've had for a decade.

    My meter and initial 100 test strips was the best under $50 purchase I've ever made.

    Thanks for the USEFUL information I get at The Heart Scan Blog.

  • Alfredo E.

    3/24/2010 2:52:07 PM |

    Hi All. I eat a low carbs diet and I have the a high fasting glucose, 95-105, but a low postprandial, 85-100.

    I also exercise everyday and do Intermittent Fasting.

    What could be the mechanism working here?

    Thanks for your ideas.

    Alfredo E.

  • Anonymous

    3/24/2010 3:20:00 PM |

    David Mendosa has a good blog/site/comments... on diabeties for many things A1C, food, low carb, etc. Check him out at www.mendosa.com
    Look under "health central" or

    http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/75106/david-guide-a1c-6-0

    For A1C guidance.

    He seems to lean away from strict AHA, ADA, and government things that do not work for him.

    His meter data is getting a little dated, and he does not specify exact things like he states vitamin D, as opposed to stating: D3. And he seems to be a little soft about major statements, possible law suit shy.

  • Anonymous

    3/24/2010 4:01:15 PM |

    I'm curious why you believe that gaining control over postprandial glucose will result in lower *fasting* glucose.  Is there a mechanism for this?  I've found that my fasting glucose hasn't fallen since I started the TYP diet 3 months ago; it's still in the mid to high 90s -- even though my one hour glucose is rarely much higher than that.

  • Anonymous

    3/24/2010 6:40:34 PM |

    Responding to Dr. Davis' comment:
    "The only two causes I am aware of are 1) iron deficiency anemia, and 2) hemoglobin variants.

    Also, are you confident of the accuracy of your blood glucose meter? You can check it by running side-by-side glucoses with a blood draw."

    I don't think he has iron deficiency anemia unless high ferritin level indicates that?  His ferritin level was 320 at the time he got the HBA1C of 5.9.  What are hemoglobin variants?

    We have the Accuchek meter and have also had fasting and post-prandial lab tests done and the meter seems to be in the ballpark.

    Thank you very much for your reply.

  • Anne

    3/24/2010 9:28:20 PM |

    My fasting was below 100. My A1C was 6.5. A OGTT spiked at 202. My doctors told me as long as my fasting BG was good, I did not have to worry as I only had insulin resistance not diabetes. That was 10 yrs ago.

    A year ago I bought a glucometer and started eliminating foods that spike my BG. My last A1C was 5.5.

    I wish I could get a hold of the results of my OGTT from 40 yrs ago. I was told it was slightly abnormal but I did not have diabetes. How much damage has been done from elevated postprandial blood sugars?

  • Anonymous

    3/25/2010 12:20:28 AM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Would you anticipate that a healthy 25 year old would obtains similarly high postprandial sugars to those meals?  Or do young, healthly, slim people have high glucose tolerance, and hence low postprandial responses to sugar?  I've seen many articles featuring sports stars who subsist on high carb, low fat diets, such as rafael nadal, roger federer, tiger woods... I find it hard to believe they exceed 120 mg/dl postprandially...

    David

  • mikyy748

    3/27/2010 5:31:11 AM |

    Please help with an explanation ! My last meal of the day (with NO carbs) is around 4PM. At 9-10PM, my glucose test shows about 100-105. But... in the morning the test shows 125-130. How is it possible?!

  • Anonymous

    4/10/2010 4:37:12 AM |

    Veeerrrrry interesting!

    I have been on an extremely resrricted carb diet for several months.  My One Touch (and my wife's, she's T1 on a pump) my glucose levels never vary from 100-120 with the vast majority right around 110-113. Tests are run about once a day at various times including 1-2 hours post prandial.

    At my PCP's office (she's also an endocrinologist) today, her office machine complained of an HbA1C of 20+ and wouldn't give a reading, while it did report my other lipid levels, most moderately elevated as usual.

    Tubes were drawn for processing by a lab.  Of course it's the weekend and I'm obsessing about it... sigh.
    I worry that my low carb lifestyle might be masking what would be high glucose readings which is not very logical, or if something is wrong with my blood such as anemia.  A quick google and here I am.

    I wonder if this is common for extremely low-carber diabetics?

    Am on low doses of Diovan, HCTZ and colchicine...

    Thanks to all for any thoughts.
    -Ron

  • Anonymous

    4/13/2010 2:26:58 PM |

    Thanks to all who commented ;)

    Lab work came back with an HbA1C of 5.9, so the office machine was just being stupid as hoped/mostly expected.

    Good luck to everyone else.

  • mongander

    4/27/2010 11:22:25 PM |

    This MedScape article doesn't make sense.  It claims that <6 may be too low...That >7 has a better all cause mortality.
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/720391

  • William A. Ryan

    7/15/2010 1:32:59 PM |

    FYI, another possible cause of abnormally high HbA1c is Vitamin B12 and/or folate deficiency.  This causes anemia with low red blood cell turnover, so any given Hb molecule is floating around longer, and thus has a higher probability of glycation.

  • Helena

    9/29/2010 11:01:56 PM |

    So.. I just started testing my blood sugar again today... first reading was 90
    Then I had lunch. Rice and curry with coconut milk (probably loaded with sugar) and it went from 156 to 258 to 124 in 2.5 hours after that meal... I am a little concerned.

    Think I will go back on my low carb diet ASAP!

  • Helena

    9/30/2010 3:22:01 PM |

    Let me correct my numbers... I didn't have them in front of me when I wrote the previous post so here they are:

    Lunch was Rice, shrimp, coconut milk based curry pot

    Blood levels:
    60 min after - 193
    90 min after - 217
    130 min after - 258
    2.5 hrs after - 140

    This morning I had a reading of 89 and after having my protein shake with cream and water it was 106...

    Def going to go back to my low carb diet asap!
    Thanks for a great blog full of valuable information and help to get back on track.

  • Anonymous

    10/15/2010 2:05:41 PM |

    This is a recent day of testing. 90 minutes after eating 50 grams of processed brown flax, my BG was about 117, but it also depends on what I eat the night before. 2 hrs after eating 8 oz hummus with tahini, my BG was 101. 1 hr after eating a 143 gram (quick rolled) oat cake with 95 grams chocolate syrup with a lot of sugar and water, my BG was 120. Next day fasting BG was 120. Carbs do a good job of BG stabilization, although I'm trying to decrease some carbs and lower my fasting BG. I will try soymilk, and less carbs.

  • H Saleem

    11/22/2010 9:04:14 PM |

    Hi, Let me add my 2Cs. The objectives for diabetics and pre-diabetics are poles apart and confusing the two can  lead to irreparable loss for the pre-diabetics and those with insulin resistance.  

    For diabetics, when the disease is well established, the focus is on minimizing the harm i.e. to minimize the blood sugar level. Elevated blood sugar does so much harm in the long run that it should be kept under control through any means possible: diet, exercise, medicine, weight loss etc. When one plan and/or drug regimen fails to control the blood glucose level, it is replaced by another, all the time focusing on maintaining optimum blood glucose levels resulting in normal (for diabetics) readings on fasting glucose, HbA1C etc. I am not fully aware but possibly there is no mainstream healthcare regimen or drug that focuses on  reversing the disease or trying to minimize diabetes damages (other than those caused by high blood glucose) like destruction of pancreatic cells.

    For pre-diabetics and those with insulin resistance, the focus should NOT be on lowering blood glucose level DIRECTLY. For pre-diabetes, it is possible to keep on "travelling" towards diabetes in reality but assuming otherwise just because some "local" interference does not let the blood sugar rise. So if you start taking any alpha-glucidase, your postprandial reading will not rise much. But this does not mean that you have controlled pre-diabetes. The causes are all there like being over-weight, lack of exercise bla bla. And your body's normal ability to regulate blood sugar keeps on deteriorating ultimately leading to a point when the alpha-glucidase alone will not be sufficient. So when pre-diabetes is treated like diabetes, it can lead to actual diabetes. This is because here the focus should not be on lowering blood glucose levels or "treating" the condition but REVERSING it. In other words the goal should be to transform the body back to the point where it can naturally process the foods while keeping the blood glucose levels and HbA1C levels in normal range. All this without the help of any drugs or special diet or aids. And for this the usual solutions are already well known: weight-loss, exercise etc.

    The moral of the story is that if you are pre-diabetic, you can keep yourself happy by eating almonds, vinegar or psyllium with meals to "show" you that your post-prandial glucose levels are in range. This can be done by eating a low-carn diet or taking diabetes drugs. But if keep the same weight, continue the same eating habbits, and do no exercise then you are possibly doing nothing to prevent a preventable disease.

  • H Saleem

    11/22/2010 9:04:58 PM |

    Hi, Let me add my 2Cs. The objectives for diabetics and pre-diabetics are poles apart and confusing the two can  lead to irreparable loss for the pre-diabetics and those with insulin resistance.  

    For diabetics, when the disease is well established, the focus is on minimizing the harm i.e. to minimize the blood sugar level. Elevated blood sugar does so much harm in the long run that it should be kept under control through any means possible: diet, exercise, medicine, weight loss etc. When one plan and/or drug regimen fails to control the blood glucose level, it is replaced by another, all the time focusing on maintaining optimum blood glucose levels resulting in normal (for diabetics) readings on fasting glucose, HbA1C etc. I am not fully aware but possibly there is no mainstream healthcare regimen or drug that focuses on  reversing the disease or trying to minimize diabetes damages (other than those caused by high blood glucose) like destruction of pancreatic cells.

    For pre-diabetics and those with insulin resistance, the focus should NOT be on lowering blood glucose level DIRECTLY. For pre-diabetes, it is possible to keep on "travelling" towards diabetes in reality but assuming otherwise just because some "local" interference does not let the blood sugar rise. So if you start taking any alpha-glucidase, your postprandial reading will not rise much. But this does not mean that you have controlled pre-diabetes. The causes are all there like being over-weight, lack of exercise bla bla. And your body's normal ability to regulate blood sugar keeps on deteriorating ultimately leading to a point when the alpha-glucidase alone will not be sufficient. So when pre-diabetes is treated like diabetes, it can lead to actual diabetes. This is because here the focus should not be on lowering blood glucose levels or "treating" the condition but REVERSING it. In other words the goal should be to transform the body back to the point where it can naturally process the foods while keeping the blood glucose levels and HbA1C levels in normal range. All this without the help of any drugs or special diet or aids. And for this the usual solutions are already well known: weight-loss, exercise etc.

    The moral of the story is that if you are pre-diabetic, you can keep yourself happy by eating almonds, vinegar or psyllium with meals to "show" you that your post-prandial glucose levels are in range. This can be done by eating a low-carn diet or taking diabetes drugs. But if keep the same weight, continue the same eating habbits, and do no exercise then you are possibly doing nothing to prevent a preventable disease.

  • KDL

    12/12/2010 9:50:40 PM |

    I have a 16 year old daughter who HBA1c is 11.7 (yes very high).  I have been working with her especialist to bring it down.  The problem is her daily readings are normal for a type 1 diabetic. I know the monitors can be cheated however I am pretty confident that most of the time she does the right thing.  I also know that sometimes she does not.  However I am wondering if there are any other things that can cause this annomoly?

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