Grasscutting, fertilizer, and healthcare

A guy named Jeff, a 60-something, taciturn, "How 'bout dem Brewers?" kind of guy, cuts my grass.

Once a week, Jeff drives over his rust-rimmed 1994 Chevy pickup and trailer, unloads his ride mower, and cuts the grass. For his 40 minutes of work, I pay him $35.

For $35, all he does is cut the grass--no trimming, no picking up debris, no working in the garden, no fertilizing, no weeding. Just cutting the grass. Occasionally, Jeff has proven to be a useful resource for peculiar problems. Last year, I had a drainage problem that he helped solve and two years ago he helped diagnose a tree disease that was killing a tree in the backyard; it's now recovered.

To save money, and because I like to work in the yard, I do the rest. I trim the edges, I fertilize the grass, plant new flowers and trees, fix damaged areas, trim wild branches.

In my view, my relationship with Jeff, a limited, as-needed relationship, in which I ask him to help with specific issues but I manage the rest myself, is how I believe that healthcare should also be conducted.

Your doctor should be like Jeff: Perhaps not taciturn, but an as-needed resource available while you do much of the work.

My simple relationship with Jeff is, I believe, the healthcare model of the future. You manage your own cholesterol issues, your own basic thyroid issues, supplement and monitor your vitamin D levels, use diet to suit your needs, order blood tests when necessary, even obtain basic imaging tests like heart scans, carotid ultrasound, bone density testing. Your doctor is a resource, near by when and if you need him or her: guidance when needed, an occasional review of what you are doing, someone to consult when you fracture an ankle.

What your doctor is NOT is a paternal, "do what I say, I'm the doctor," or a "You need these tests whether you like it or not" holder of your health fate.

It is a model of healthcare that will evolve over the next 20-30 years, only in its infancy now.

While we started Track Your Plaque as just a resource for in-depth information on prevention and reversal of coronary heart disease, I now see it as something much greater: a prototype for the emerging concept of self-directed health.

Enough for now. I've got some tomatoes to pick.

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  • StephenB

    8/25/2009 5:30:30 PM |

    And here's another "I agree wholeheartedly". It can be hard to find a doctor on the same page though. Anyone have suggestions?

  • William Trumbower

    8/25/2009 8:46:13 PM |

    Amen brother!    One of the big problems with self directed care is the lack of true knowledge for the public to help them make choices.  For example  The dietary advice given from our government and other health agencies (ADA,  AHA, food pyramid etc) to cut the fat and red meat, eat whole grains and lots of fruit.

  • Pythonic Avocado

    8/25/2009 11:17:40 PM |

    Agreed. I've thought something like this would be very nice. In my mind, I've been calling it 'distributed medicine', but 'self-directed health' sounds more empowering. Smile

  • billye

    8/26/2009 12:30:33 AM |

    Hi StephenB,

    This is the future of medicine!!

    I suggest Dr. Kenneth Tourgeman. He is definitely on the same page as Dr. Davis.  He is a nephrologist who preaches a hunter gatherer lifestyle and practices scientific nutritional medicine with high dose vitamin D3 and high dose omega 3 fish oil. His blog is nephropal.blogspot.com

  • HenryC

    8/26/2009 5:04:55 AM |

    This is one of the wisest suggestions I have heard in a long time. If other medical practitioners would accept this advice, it could revolutionize our healthcare system.

  • Anonymous

    8/26/2009 8:53:44 PM |

    Not that I disagree, but just how realistic is this.  Most people cannot even manage to keep their own computer running properly, how can they be expected to manage their health to the extent I suggest.

    Not that I approve of paternalistic "do as I say" doctors, but I don't see a system such as yours work for the majority of people.  I'd like to see a system that encourages patients to take charge of their health care, instead of considering them trouble maker when when they do.  But that will always be a minority.  Most people want to be told what to do.

  • Heather

    8/26/2009 10:24:56 PM |

    This is amazing. I was just thinking the same thing about one hour ago after doing some reading on my own health issues.

    Thank you for putting this forward, this idea will indeed revolutionize the health care "industry" for the better, when people start taking it upon themselves to manage their own tests, results, medications, supplements, etc. outcomes will improve dramatically.

    Mark my words. Smile

  • moblogs

    8/27/2009 9:29:56 AM |

    I know a handful of doctors who are like this, and they seem to make a psychological difference as well as a physical one.
    However, most might be worried that you'll think for yourself - in the wrong or right direction. They can't be having that.

    Dr. David Grimes (who once proposed that statins work by somehow activating the vitamin D receptor) published a book on the vitamin D/cholesterol connection this April.
    http://www.vitamin-d-deficiency.co.uk/
    A very nice man as well. I've had an email conversation with him.

  • Anonymous

    8/27/2009 12:52:02 PM |

    I agree that healthcare should be largely self-directed, and I absolutely agree that the public should be allowed to make more informed decisions about their own health. However, I think that to assume that all Americans have the discipline and intelligence to truly take charge of their own care is very misguided.  Our health problems go far beyond the misinformation from the ADA and AHA.

  • Joanne at Open Mind Required

    8/27/2009 2:54:21 PM |

    This change can't come too soon. I recently went to the VA hospital to get bloodwork done. I wanted any sort of test to give me a baseline on which I could monitor improvements from changes in my diet.

    The nurse refused several tests because they cost money, said with mild scorn, "You apparently don't want anything from the VA other than testing" and later chastised me for refusing a mammogram and pap smear. (Aren't those costly, too?)

    This is my body. I call the shots. Please, just answer my questions and help me help myself.

  • Tom

    8/27/2009 4:00:22 PM |

    StephenB

    >It can be hard to find a doctor on the same page though.

    Absolutely. And in the UK, with its large General Practice centres, it is hard to see the same doctor twice. 'First consult you doctor' is written everywhere these days, but one doesn't have *a* doctor, so there can't be a relationship established on trust. It is also getting harder to buy simple non-prescription drugs like aspirin over here, due to nannying by pharmacists.

  • Helena

    8/27/2009 5:24:10 PM |

    Hello Dr Davis,

    I just found this article about Type-1 Diabetes and wheat; thought you would like it, unless you already red it.

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/58/8/1789.abstract

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/27/2009 10:06:27 PM |

    Let me post a hypothetical question: What if your health were tracked, if online interactions were truly interactive, and you could be prompted/reminded/coached to consider various strategies for health using your individual health data?

    That is what we are working on here using Track Your Plaque as the prototype.

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    8/28/2009 2:20:36 AM |

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  • Nick

    8/28/2009 3:48:04 AM |

    billye

    Sorry to be off topic -- I love the nephropal blog but wonder if anyone else is having problems with it?  Everytime I log on it knocks out my wireless connection.

  • Anonymous

    8/28/2009 4:04:28 AM |

    Dont know where else to put this but I voted on your thyroid question. I answered "questioned why but ordered the tests"

    But the rest of the story is he said the results were fine although my TSH was High "normal" and my T4 was OUT of range low.

    Went to see a new doc this week.

  • billye

    8/28/2009 6:31:47 PM |

    Nick,

    I have not heard anything about connection problems from anyone.  Leave a comment for Dr T at nephropal.blogspot.com and I am sure that he will look into it.

  • kris

    8/28/2009 7:29:40 PM |

    Dr. Davis, i agree with you what you just said. but, there is even bigger issue to deal with here. the FDA. for example: FDA is going after natural thyroid hormons. which have been selling safely in the market for 100 years now. talk about pure money muscle power. FDA have no problem approving dangrous drugs for cholstrol. it confuses the issue further for the people who are trying to learn about their own health.
    http://thyroid.about.com/b/2009/08/26/end-natural-thyroid.htm?nl=1#commentform

  • Anonymous

    8/29/2009 4:10:00 AM |

    Dr. Davis said: Let me post a hypothetical question: What if your health were tracked, if online interactions were truly interactive, and you could be prompted/reminded/coached to consider various strategies for health using your individual health data?

    Well that would be just great, IF one didn't have to worry some about an insurance company accessing such data and using it against one to deny coverage or prevent one from obtaining future coverage. Such info would have to be COMPLETELY private.

    Until there are no "pre-existing condition" exclusions in health insurance, and it doesn't matter if such information could possibly be accessed by insurance, I will just "do it myself".

    Technology can be a two-edged sword.  I had a heart scan and my insurance wouldn't pay for it... but they apparently were interested enough in the results to make it damn near impossible to obtain life insurance, health insurance, and long term care insurance on the open market, due to my "pre-existing condition".

    Luckily we will have "lifetime medical insurance" through an employer's generous retirement plan and eventually Medicare.  Not so lucky about the long tern care coverage, though.

    Until technology can guarantee complete privacy, and no possible controverted use of information, I have great reservations, no matter how well intentioned and valuable the information.

    madcook

  • Dr. William Davis

    8/29/2009 1:56:40 PM |

    Hi, Mad--

    Yes, indeed.

    I believe that, while imperfect, online security is the solution. Only you (or those you designate) can access your info. This is how Google Health, Microsoft Health Vault, and Revolution Health's health archiving services work.

    It's happening. And it will change healthcare for the better by putting more information and control into the hands of the consumer. This is a GOOD thing.


    Kris--

    Yes, this is very worrisome.

    The FDA is threatening to "clamp down" on thyroid preparations and "bioidentical hormones," two areas in which most of us agree no action is required and in fact will be destructive.

    I've written my letters to the FDA expressing my objection to their policies. Everyone else should, too.

  • Anonymous

    8/31/2009 7:50:19 PM |

    Just saw my doc for annual physical (I'm 49).  Mentioned the heart scan blog and he said calcium score tests are "bogus".  "insurance companies don't pay for them so they must not mean much, plus if the plaque doesn't reduce flow, it's not a problem".  And he's young (early 40's).  Kept quiet after that; no use trying to convince him to open his mind.

  • epistemocrat

    9/2/2009 2:28:51 PM |

    Hi Dr. Davis (and readers),

    I have conceptualized this movement to the 'Patient of One' healthcare system in a few essays:

    http://epistemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/12/health-care-sans-primary-care.html

    and then, more recently, through many of my recent blog postings:

    http://epistemocrat.blogspot.com/

    (feedback welcomed)

    Cheers to fostering an inviting and respectable community of self-directed self-experimenters.

    Thanks,

    Brent

  • trinkwasser

    9/10/2009 3:30:42 PM |

    To a degree I've had something like that for a while now. Our local surgery uses nurses, prescribing nurses etc. for routine stuff, which frees up the doctors' time for serious stuff. For example when mother is ill I can always get a doctor to call (or paramedics/ambulance) or take her to the surgery where she is seen by a triage nurse and a GP is called immediately if required.

    My GP (In fact all the GPs) are comparatively clueful BUT limited by accountants as to what they are and are not permitted to do - and here's the problem, when the doctor is cut out of the loop then even the receptionist is permitted to refuse tests or refuse to give out the results and otherwise hinder my looking after myself. The not-doctors are even more limited as to what they are and are not permitted to do and it still needs a real doctor to override these restrictions, for example to get a full lipid panel rather than TChol, and then be given the actual numbers.

    If these relatively recent financial restrictions were lifted again (some hope!) it'd be an ideal system, I get the tests I need and the prescriptions I need and as much or as little support as I require to work on the results. Reversing this back to a patronising  "eat up your carbs yum yum and we'll weigh you again in six months and check for statin deficiency once a year" may "save" money but only in the short term.

    The doctors themselves aren't happy about Big Brother - but they realise that opposing it will lead to loss of their employment Frown

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CRP House of Cards

Lew has coronary plaque with a heart scan score of 393. At age 53, that's in the 90th percentile (higher score than 90% of men in his age group).

On our search for causes of his coronary plaque, we identify low HDL of 41 mg/dl, high triglycerides of 202 mg/dl, small LDL (83% of total), calculated LDL of 133 mg/dl, and severe vitamin D deficiency with a starting blood level of 25-hydroxy vitamin D of 19 ng/ml.

His c-reactive protein: 4.1 mg/dl--above the cut-off of 2.0 mg/dl that the pharmaceutical industry is targeting as a mandate for statin therapy, particularly given the JUPITER data.

Lew instead eliminates wheat and other small LDL-provoking foods and, as a result, loses 28 lbs in 3 months; adds omega-3 fatty acids from fish oil; supplements vitamin D sufficient to increase his blood level to 70 ng/ml.

Along with dramatic correction of his starting abnormalities, his c-reactive protein: 0.4 mg/dl--no statin drug.

In my view, increased CRP is nothing more than a surrogate for the inflammatory phenomena that arise from high-carbohydrate diets, overweight, and small LDL. Correct those and CRP drops off a cliff. In fact, it is exceptionally rare for CRP to not drop to very low levels following this formula.

I believe that CRP is one more item on the list of reasons--the house of cards--the pharmaceutical industry is building to persuade us to take more and more statin drugs. LDL not low enough? Take more statin. Diabetic with low cholesterol? Take a statin. Inflammation? Take a statin.

Enough already.

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  • Scott W

    5/4/2009 2:23:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis:

    Wondering if you could clarify your thoughts a bit. You promote elimination of wheat and corn starch (which I fully believe in) but then also comment on the elimination of carbohydrate (in the aggregate) as being a key factor for health. I'm not convinced that all carb is problematic for a person with a normal metabolism. Of course, it doesn't hurt anything; just wondering at your experience with those who don't go low carb but do drop the wheat.

    Thanks.

    Scott

  • JPB

    5/4/2009 3:59:00 PM |

    So why have so many doctors bought into this whole statin thing?  If you question the need for a statin, you are first bullied to take them and second shown the door if you continue to resist!

  • Ricardo

    5/4/2009 4:02:00 PM |

    Dear Dr. Davis, the improvement you describe for Mr. Lew is mainly because of wheat elimination, fish oil supplements or 25-hydroxy vitamin D increased levels? Or is just because of the significant weight loss and hypocaloric diet? In other words, from your experience, would you expect similar results in other people, for example, with the same approach but with no weight loss at all?

  • Roger

    5/4/2009 4:49:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis,

    Are you still recommending Niacin?  I haven't seen it mentioned for low HDL in a while.

  • Nick

    5/4/2009 8:41:00 PM |

    It would be interesting to know how long Lew's dietary/supplemental changes were in effect before his hsCRP impressively dropped from 4.1 mg/dl to .4 mg/dl?

    Two months into a LC diet and two weeks without grains my hsCRP was 2.43 mg/dl, HDL-75, TGs-82, calculated LDL-105, VLDL-16. Yes, my doctor advised me to go on a statin and a low-fat, high fiber diet to lower my LDL number to <75 (not going to happen). In my case, I do not need to lose weight, just manage blood sugar.

    Still, it would be interesting to know when to expect a lowering of CRP and what other factors beside coronary plaque determine the measured hsCRP when one is mimicking Lew's strategy?

  • Anne

    5/4/2009 11:51:00 PM |

    I have had a dramatic improvement in my hs-CRP, but it occurred slowly. Nine years ago my hs-CRP was over 13 and I was having one stent after another and ultimately bypass. As I made lifestyle changes, my hs-CRP started to fall a little. In 2003 I stopped eating gluten(wheat, barley and rye) and by 2005 my hs-CRP dropped to 4.98.

    Now I have given up all grains because of blood sugar issues and my hs-CRP is 2.19 - not perfect but heading in the right direction. My vitamin D is now 54ng/ml instead of 24. I do take fish oil.

    I doubt a statin could lower hs-CRP from 13 to 2.19

  • steve

    5/5/2009 1:25:00 AM |

    i have been looking to join the track your plaque website,but the site that asks for a credit card does not appear to be secure/encrypted; it is not an https site for example.  Therefore any data you put in for a credit card is out there in cyber space.  any suggestions?

  • Dr. William Davis

    5/5/2009 1:42:00 AM |

    Great results, Anne!

    In general, CRP reductions occur over several months. The phenomenon that both exerts profound effects but can slow the process down is WEIGHT LOSS.

    Scott--It depends on whether there are metabolic measures that reflect intolerance to wheat and other carbohydrates, such as small LDL or increased CRP.

  • vin

    5/5/2009 8:19:00 AM |

    Dr. Davis,

    when you say eliminate wheat and other food that cause small LDL : which other foods are you referring to? Is it all simple carbs such as sugars, processed foods etc. or something else?

    Thanks.

  • Dr. William Davis

    5/5/2009 10:38:00 AM |

    Vin--

    Eliminating wheat means just that: anything made with wheat. Otherwise, the effect does not kick in.

  • Anonymous

    5/5/2009 9:25:00 PM |

    The ml/dl units for CRP levels are likely a typo, one that is widely found in the medical literature and confusing for the novice attempting to determine normal serum CRP levels.  Levels above 2 or 3 mg/L are often cited as indicative of increased cardiac risk and levels at or above 2 mg/L (0.2 mg/dl) were required for eligibility in the Jupiter study.

  • Anonymous

    5/6/2009 4:54:00 AM |

    Dr Davis,

    I've been on a Low carb diet for the last six months.  My triglycerides is 60, HDL 61 but my direct LDL is 174, APOPROTEIN B is 119. My CRP was .6.  Should I be worried about the APOPROTEIN B score of 119?  My doctor recommended that I take a Statin drug....with the high LDL score and APO_B score.  I don't eat any grains and currently taking fish oil, niacin and vitamin D gel based pills.  I would like to stay away from statins....but I'm getting frustrated in not being able to lower my LDLs through diet.

  • Anna

    5/10/2009 3:59:00 PM |

    To those of you who have eliminated grains; reduced your fear of naturally saturated fat (be wary of trans fats and most vegetable oils, though); have seen your HDL go up; etc., but are still worried about what seems like an elevated LDL (remember, it's probably just a calculated number, not a direct measurement), then consider that few primary care docs even see people who eat like that, so  they don't know what to do with the unusual profile that comes up.  They rec a statin as a knee-jerk reaction to any "elevated" LDL number, despite all the other "risk factors" that look fine - it's to cover their you know whats (one doc even said that to me).

    I ran into this with my endo who noted in my file the high calculated LDL and total cholesterol numbers (but the ratios and triglyc are great and far better than they were 5 ya before I got my BG under control by restricting carbs, then eliminating wheat).  

    In response to the suggestion I consider a statin, despite no other reason besides the high "calculated" (estimated) LDL number, I said, "then let's take a closer look at that LDL.  Please order a detailed cholesterol lipoprotein panel [same as TYP recommends] to directly count and measure the LDL particles, because I think it's highly likely the LDL will be few in number plus will be the large fluffy kind not associated with CVD."  At that point I did know that my atypical high fat, low carb diet that I followed to manage my BG tended to promote the right LDL and minimize the small dense LDL particle formation.  So I wasn't worried at all about the LDL number, but probably most people are conditioned to worry about LDL these days.

    That was before I knew about heart scans.  Now that I've had a heart scan with an unsurprising 0 score.  So if I get another statin recommendation (prob less likely now),  I'll say that "there is no measurable plaque in my coronary arteries,  so no thanks" (not to mention the questionable benefit of statins for women, anyway).  

    These days, before I consider taking *any* treatment that wasn't needed on an emergency basis, I look into it thoroughly
    from ALL angles and make sure no stone is unturned - to be sure I truly will benefit from it and not be harmed (and that means a direct look at the so-called risk factors and side effects or undesireable outcomes, not just an estimate or calculation.  We've been programmed to fear any high LDL number, but we need LDL; that's why we make it -  it serves a physiological function.  We just have to get past the oversimplification of "good and bad" cholesterol and make sure we make the the healthier forms.

  • Trinkwasser

    5/16/2009 12:59:00 PM |

    Good going Anna!

    The cluefulness factor varies a lot between doctors. One of mine noted "weird" lipids without relating them to what was obvious "diabetic dyslipidemia". Many in the UK will only look at TChol.

    My current one is more competent than many, she agrees that my slightly high LDL is not dangerous since my trigs and HDL have become so good. But she is adamant that I cannot have CRP or homocysteine tested and lipoprotein panel is totally unavailable. Not entirely her fault, it's those accountants.

    I'm trying to educate her into the benefits of carb lowering. She's coming round to understanding my point of view but is restricted by protocols from recommending it to others. I'm getting through better with the nurses who seem more able to suggest useful techniques without fear of being disciplined or losing their jobs.

  • AE

    1/6/2012 9:11:49 PM |

    Hello Dr. Davis,

    I'm on a ketogenic diet and in the process of weight loss. Went to the doc and got my blood test to find out that my cholesterol numbers were good, however, I had high CRP (5.5). The doctor immediately suggested statins. No additional tests to rule out an infection or other strategies to determine the cause of the inflammation.

    I'm aware that during weight loss the blood test results can be skewed. (You talk about this here: http://www.trackyourplaque.com/blog/2011/09/what-is-this-wacky-thing-called-weight-loss.html) However, given that my cholesterol results are good, I'm wondering why the CRP would be high.

    You can get a more detailed background about my case here (which includes blood test results): http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/o4lk8/bloodwork_after_3_months_of_keto/

    Sincerely,

    A.E.

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