Is Cocoa Puffs no longer heart healthy?

Until recently, Cocoa Puffs enjoyed the endorsement of the American Heart Association (AHA) as a heart-healthy food.

For a price, the AHA will allow food manufacturers to affix a heart "check mark" signifying endorsement by the AHA as conforming to some basic "heart healthy" requirements.

Odd thing: The list of breakfast cereals on the check mark program has shrunk dramatically. When I last posted about this, there were around 50-some breakfast cereals, from Cocoa Puffs to Frosted Mini Wheats. Now, the list has been trimmed down to 17:

Berry Burst Cheerios-Triple Berry
Cheerios
Cheerios Crunch
Honey Nut Cheerios
Kashi Heart to Heart Honey Toasted Oat Cereal
Kashi Heart to Heart Oat Flakes & Wild Blueberry Clusters
Kashi Heart to Heart Warm Cinnamon Oat Cereal
Multi Grain Cheerios
Oatmeal Crisp Crunchy Almond
Oatmeal Crisp Hearty Raisin
Quaker Cinnamon Life
Quaker Heart Health
Quaker Life
Quaker Life Maple & Brown Sugar
Quaker Oat Bran
Quaker Oatmeal Squares - Brown Sugar
Quaker Oatmeal Squares - Cinnamon


According to sales material targeted to food manufacturers, the American Heart Association boasts that "The American Heart Association’s heart-check mark is the most recognized and trusted food icon today . . . Eighty-three percent of consumers are aware of the heart-check mark. Sixty-six percent of primary grocery shoppers say the heart-check mark has a strong/moderate influence on their choices when shopping."

So, is Cocoa Puffs no longer heart healthy?

I suspect that agencies like the AHA, the USDA, the American Diabetes Association as starting to understand that they have blundered big time by pushing low-fat, having contributed to the nationwide epidemic of obesity and diabetes, and that it is time to quietly start backpedaling.

While it's a step in the right direction, judging from the above list of breakfast cereal "survivors" of the check mark program, the criteria may have been tightened . . . but not that much.

Comments (17) -

  • Anne

    4/29/2010 3:50:05 AM |

    One step forward, two steps back.

    Chocolate Cheerios are good for the heart. If you don't believe this go here http://www.cheerios.com/ourCereals/ChocolateCheerios/ChocolateCheerios_home.aspx

  • Anonymous

    4/29/2010 6:09:16 AM |

    I had a bowl of bran flakes and checked my blood sugar. 141. Yikes!

  • Myron

    4/29/2010 7:49:24 AM |

    I have been down on wheat family of grains for a long time, but for other reasons than the health consequences tied to peak blood sugar elevations [and consequent hypoglycemic phases].  I'm down on the inflammatory oils and the allergy aspects.

    Have you investigated HEMP SEED?  It is high in protein and packed with good oils.   How does it rate with your diet suggestions?    Would it be good to run some trials?

  • Bryan Rankin

    4/29/2010 3:20:34 PM |

    "they have blundered big time by pushing low-fat ... it is time to quietly start backpedaling."

    They're backpedaling all right, but it's not because they are abandoning the low fat message.  The average consumer is not quite ignorant enough to believe Cocoa Puffs are healthy, and they don't want that 60% that are affected by their check mark to drop.

  • Anonymous

    4/29/2010 9:11:08 PM |

    Just got an AHA solicitation in the mail this week.  Like so many other organizations, they do not act in the best interest of the people they claim to serve.  My money and time are better spent pursuing the more promising preventative practices such as those promoted by TYP.

  • whatsonthemenu

    4/29/2010 11:02:29 PM |

    A colleague eats a Quaker oatmeal square for breakfast every morning.  Among the ingredients listed on the label is partially hydrogenated soybean oil, not enough, apparently, to bump the transfat content above .5 grams, so the nutrition label lists 0 grams of transfat.  No amount of transfat is healthy, yet this product has the AHA seal of approval. I used to eat granola bars when I thought they were healthy.  I read labels and noticed that quite a few use partially hydrogenated oils, including brands that boast of high fiber or Omega 3 content.

  • Lori Miller

    4/30/2010 12:19:48 AM |

    Maybe the people at Cocoa Puffs stopped writing checks. Who needs an endorsement when your product contains wheat, sugar and chocolate and is marketed to kids in an I-want-to-be-my-child's-friend mileau?

  • Larry

    4/30/2010 11:29:12 PM |

    As if these cereals aren't bad enough...
    KFC is selling their fried chicken in Pink "Buckets for the Cure" for Breast Cancer fund raising.
    It left me speechless.
    I've said it before... we're on our own.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/homestyle/04/28/kfc.pink.bucket.campaign/

  • Lynn M.

    5/1/2010 3:35:49 AM |

    The site Ted linked to (www.cerealfacts.org) has a list of Top 10 Cereals by Nutrition Score.  None of those top 10 are on the AHA list of heart-healthy cereals.

  • Venkat

    5/2/2010 11:17:53 PM |

    Dr Davis,

    This question is off the topic. I read your book Track your plaque a month back and had been to AZ heart institute and got my plaque measured.

    I am a Type 2 Diabetic for the past 11 years and am actively low carbing (<30g carbs per day) and 100% grain avoiding since May 2008.

    My calcium score was 0.

    But the staff was not able to say whether the machine they used was EBT/MDCT. They said it is newer than EBT. The machine had GE 64 slice VCT printed on it. Can you confirm if this is the one you are asking people to have it calcium scored?

    I live in Phoenix, AZ and had been to AZ Heart Institute (got the information from "Track your plaque" book).

    Please let me know if I got calcium score done in a machine in which I am supposed to do.

    Thanks for all the help.

    Thanks

    Venkat

  • Ned Kock

    5/3/2010 9:13:38 PM |

    > I had a bowl of bran flakes and checked my blood sugar. 141. Yikes

    It is a great idea to check blood glucose levels after meals, just bear in mind that they can vary rather erratically:

    http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/05/blood-glucose-variations-in-normal.html

  • Anonymous

    5/4/2010 9:50:41 PM |

    Oats, oats, oats is the common thread of the "survivors." Either the oat industry is doing an excellent coordinated marketing attack or there is something to the claim that oats are good for cardiovascular health.

  • Anonymous

    5/6/2010 2:36:59 AM |

    I don't eat cereal of any kind. Have no desire to. A much healthier choice altogether would be cottage cheese with fruit or just fruit, scrambled eggs or even bacon cooked extra crispy.

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"Heart Healthy" and other lies

"Heart Healthy" and other lies

"Bankers believe liquidation has run its course and advise purchases."

New York Times headline, Oct 30, 1929, at the start of the Great Depression.






"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky."

Former President Bill Clinton at a Washington Press Conference, 1998.






"The third quarter is going to be great."

Enron CEO, Ken Lay, just before the company reported a $638 million third-quarter loss, triggering the company's collapse.




Should we add the following to the list?


Heart Healthy Bisquick





















Heart Healthy snacks according to the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute:

Animal crackers, devil's food cookies, fig and other fruit bars, ginger snaps, graham crackers, vanilla or lemon wafers

Angel food cake or other lowfat cakes

Low fat frozen yogurt, ice milk, fruit ices, sorbet, sherbet

Pudding (make it with fat free or 1% milk), gelatin desserts

Popcorn without butter or oil; pretzels, baked tortilla chips






67% digestible carbohydrates/sugars from corn syrup, sugar, raisins, and honey. Oh, yes . . . and it contains plant sterols.





"Heartzels are a healthy snack alternative for anyone wanting to control fat intake and add fiber to their diet," said Tracy LaRosiliere, a Frito-Lay vice president of marketing. "What better time for Frito-Lay to launch its first heart-healthy snack than during American Heart Month and just in time for Valentine's Day."

The relationship with the American Heart Association and the launch of Rold Gold Heartzels Pretzels is the latest move by Frito-Lay to continue its commitment to offering a wide variety of low-fat and better-for-you snacks nationally, which like the company's assortment of regular chips can be enjoyed as part of a healthy diet and lifestyle.

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  • Cindy Moore

    1/24/2008 3:02:00 AM |

    Sad....but not surprising.

    I'm on a diet web site that offers recipes. Many are labeled "healthy" or "heart healthy" because they contain less oil, no egg yolks, etc....but they are still using white flour, sugar (sometimes raw! lol)....and offer little more than carbohydrates with a tiny bit of protein and/or fat(often less than 10% total!). But they're "healthy" because they have little or no fat!

    And oh man the commercials about "healthy" whole grains!

  • Red Sphynx

    1/24/2008 4:30:00 PM |

    "Heartzels are a healthy snack alternative for anyone wanting to control fat intake and add fiber to their diet,".  

    Right.  Fiber knocks down total cholesterol.  What effect does it have on dense / fluffy / oxidized subtypes?

  • Anonymous

    1/24/2008 7:36:00 PM |

    Oh man, that would be a dream if Bisquick, with a little maple syrup poured on top, was heart healthy.  If true I'd have the healthiest cardiovascular system in America.

  • Anonymous

    1/25/2008 4:32:00 AM |

    Hi Dr Davis,
    Thought to pass on a cute story  for a chuckle.  Talking about how science can evolve and how all low fat foods were once considered heart healthy but today we are learning that is not the case - this morning my mother received a call from a friend saying that her doctor suggested she begin taking fish oil.  Knowing that my mom is following a heart healthy program, the friend called to ask which fish oil capsules to buy and if there is anything else worth taking.  Mom gave her suggestions of what to purchase and thought that was the end of the conversation.  A few hours later the friend called back to say her husband, an intelligent man as he is a retired University professor but also very much a grizzled guy, said she should not take that "crap" as probably in 5 years from now it will be found to cause prostate cancer.  The friend called to say she bought the suggested items, she was willing to take the risk.

  • wccaguy

    1/26/2008 1:54:00 PM |

    In George Orwell's, 1984,

    "The three slogans of the Party, on display everywhere, are

        * WAR IS PEACE
        * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
        * IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"

    Could "Heart Healthy" be added to the list?

    In keeping with times, evidently, the recently appointed Attorney General of the United States hangs a portrait of George Orwell in his office.  Honest.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/
    idUSN2536540620080125

    (paste two lines of link together)

  • Anonymous

    1/27/2008 12:09:00 AM |

    Great article in the New York Times:  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27taubes.html?_r=1&ex=1359090000&en=83d7fc4ab59036ac&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

    Shows that the word is getting out.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/27/2008 2:15:00 AM |

    As always, Gary Taubes cuts to the bone and makes clear, concise, no nonsense, and persuasive arguments.

    From this heated discussion, I predict that the number of small LDL particles as measured by NMR will emerge as the explanation behind the lukewarm value of Friedewald (calculated) LDL cholesterol.

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The myth of mild coronary disease

The myth of mild coronary disease

I hear this comment from patients all the time:

"They told me that I had only mild blockages and so I had nothing to worry about."

That's one big lie.

I guess I shouldn't call it a lie. Is it a lie when it comes from ignorance, arrogance, laziness, or greed?

"Mild coronary disease" is usually a label applied to coronary atherosclerotic plaque that is insufficient to block flow. Thus, having a few 20%, 30%, or 40% blockages would be labeled "mild." No stents are (usually) implanted, no bypass surgery performed, and symptoms should not be attributable to the blockages. Thus, "mild."

The problem is that "mild" blockages are no less likely to rupture, the eruptive process that resembles a little volcano spewing lava. Except it's not lava, but the internal contents of atherosclerotic plaque. When these internal contents of plaque gain contact with blood, the coagulation process is set in motion and the artery both clots and constricts. Chest pains and heart attack result.

So, the essential point is not necessarily the amount of blood flow through the artery, but the presence of coronary atherosclerotic plaque. Just having plaque--any amount of plaque--sets the stage to permit plaque rupture.

One thing is clear: The more plaque you have, the greater the risk for rupture. But the quantity of plaque cannot be measured by the "percent blockage." It is measured by the lengthwise extent of plaque, as well as the depth of plaque within the wall. Neither of these risk features for plaque rupture can be gauged by percent blockage.


Coronary atherosclerosis is a diffuse process that involves much of the length of the artery. It is therefore folly to believe that a 15 mm long stent has addressed the disease. This is no more a solution than to replace the faucet in your kitchen in a house with rotting pipes from the basement up.

The message: ANY amount of coronary plaque is reason to engage in a program of prevention--prevention of plaque rupture, prevention of further plaque growth, perhaps even regression (reversal). It is NOT a reason to be complacent and buy into the myth of "mild" coronary disease, the misguided notion that arises from ill-conceived procedural heart disease solutions.


Image courtesy Wikipedia.

Copyright 2008 William Davis, MD

Comments (27) -

  • Octavio Ricchetta

    1/19/2008 6:59:00 PM |

    Did you see the statins article in latest issue of BW? It is a MUST read!

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_04/b4068052092994.htm?chan=magazine+channel_top+stories

  • Anonymous

    1/19/2008 8:10:00 PM |

    I'd make it akin to pregnancy: ya either are or ya aint... no grey areas.  
    could be 9mos, could be 3mos but you're still pregnant.

    Scan and Track yourself...You either have a positive CAC score, lucky dude (or dudette) it's zero. If it's positive then Obliterate that Plaque (S.T.O.P.) with TYP and DR. Davis!

  • Anonymous

    1/19/2008 8:39:00 PM |

    And if you look 3mos pregnant (and you're male) there's a 100% chance you have plaque.
    And if you're female... and NOT pregnant, ditto because central obesity typically indicates Insulin Resistance the strongest plaque builder out there. 70% of the world's population are pre-diabetic or have type 2 diabetes (T2DM) and it's growing everyday.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/19/2008 10:08:00 PM |

    I can't tell you how many people have come to me and told me that a doctor told them statins were "magic" or a virtual "cure" for heart disease. Of course, they are not. They don't even come close.

    Yes, statins do provide a role. In a $26 billion industry, perhaps 20% of that is truly necessary.

  • Dr. Davis

    1/19/2008 10:09:00 PM |

    Well said.

    Maybe I should post a piece called "Are you a pregnant male?"

  • Anonymous

    1/20/2008 7:50:00 PM |

    A little off subject, but any comments on the latest report( I believe from the  Framingham study ) that says low vitamin D levels is a very definite cardiac risk factor ONLY in people with high blood pressure and not at all in anybody else?

  • Dr. Davis

    1/21/2008 1:43:00 AM |

    As with any observational study in which no intervention (e.g., treatment with vitamin D) was made, various factors as predictors of death and heart attack emerge only when powerful effects are likely.

    We see enormous effects from vit D replacement regardless of BP effects. Remember also that there is more to life and health than reduction of cardiovascular disease risk. Vit D also reduces risk of falls/fractures, osteoporosis, various cancers (esp. colon and prostate), reduces blood sugar, inflammatory responses, etc.

  • Anonymous

    1/21/2008 11:20:00 AM |

    I know this is probably not the right place to post this message but I do not know where else to. I live in the UK and I have had 'Track Your Plaque' on order for the past two weeks with Play.com (similar to Amazon). I queried why my order is taking so long and they said that the book is printed on demand. Is this correct ? If so please can you tell me when you are next doing a printing because I really do need the book before the beginning of February when I will be seeing my cardiologist and asking him for a referral for an EBCT scan. I want to go to my appointment armed with 'Track Your Plaque' !

    with kind regards,
    Anne

  • Dr. Davis

    1/21/2008 1:01:00 PM |

    Yes, this far out from its original printing, it is now printed only on demand.

  • Anonymous

    1/21/2008 1:38:00 PM |

    Dear Dr Davis,

    Have you any idea how long it takes to get a copy printed ? I have a bicuspid aortic valve with moderate stenosis and I think it would be a good idea for my cardiologist to refer me for a scan so that we can see why the stenosis is progressing if it is due to calcification of the valve - I don't see what else it could be - but he may take some convincing and I was hoping that if I had the book it would be helpful. If I don't get a referral it will be too expensive for me to pay for myself as an EBCT scan in the UK costs around £500 or $1000.

    with best wishes,
    Anne

  • Dr. Davis

    1/21/2008 1:43:00 PM |

    Hi, Anne-
    Unfortunately, a heart scan will not be very helpful for the question of aortic valve disease. Yes, it can quantify calcium on the valve, but this is not a factor in determining when replacement is necessary, nor does it help track progression, unlike in coronary arteries.

    Be sure to take a look at vitamin D--this is crucial in aortic valve issues.

  • Anonymous

    1/21/2008 2:04:00 PM |

    Dear Dr Davis,

    Oh, I see :-( My cardiologist is doing yearly echocardiograms to determine when to replace the valve, but, from my limited knowledge, I had been thinking that if I knew the exact extent of any calcification on the valve and took all steps necessary to reverse the calcification then I could reverse the progression of the stenosis and never have to have a valve replacement. I have started to take 5000iu of D3 per day yes Smile

    with best wishes,
    Anne

  • wccaguy

    1/21/2008 3:53:00 PM |

    Hi Dr. Davis,

    I have a friend whose wife has mitral valve prolapse.  Would Vitamin D3 supplementation be useful in treating this?

  • g

    1/21/2008 4:13:00 PM |

    anne,

    I bought 8 books -- and they arrived in < 1wk.  Once you read it, you'll want your best friends and family to get onboard too! Smile  No point in being immortal... ALONE.
    Also, if you're considering trackyourplaque.com membership, the TYP book is included!

    g

  • Dr. Davis

    1/21/2008 10:30:00 PM |

    Hi, WC--
    No. Vit D will not have any specific effect on mitral valve prolapse. However, it's still worth taking for all the other benefits, however.

  • trading

    1/22/2008 12:08:00 AM |

    I received a zero score in a coronary artery calcium screening. However, the clinic mailed me a report that had some comments related to mild ectasia of the ascending aorta and subtle calcification involving the descending aorta.  Any thoughts?

  • Dr. Davis

    1/22/2008 12:28:00 AM |

    Then it's likely that high blood pressure, vitamin D deficiency, and some other factors (see lipoproteins) are active issues.

  • trading

    1/22/2008 1:13:00 AM |

    Dr. Davis
    Thank you for the response. I am fascinated by your blog and will follow up on your suggestions.

  • Peter

    1/22/2008 11:20:00 AM |

    wccaguy,

    Re mitral valve prolapse: Is magnesium a factor? Bit of an obscure ref but Mg is pretty non toxic by mouth...

    Peter

  • Stan

    1/22/2008 6:35:00 PM |

    Magnesium depletion seems common also in diabetes.  Could perhaps Mg depletion and it's negative consequences, including valve damage as per Peter's reference, be caused by the excessive carbohydrate consumption as the primary factor?

    Stan (Heretic)

    http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/magnesium.shtml#carbohydrate_metabolism

  • Dr. Davis

    1/22/2008 8:49:00 PM |

    Yes, magnesium depletion can develop on high-carbohydrate diets, and it also aggravtes pre-diabetic tendencies.

    However, while magnesium supplementation can reduce some of the consequences of mitral valve prolapse (such as abnormal heart rhythms), it does not actually protect the valve.

    A bit confusing.

  • Stan

    1/23/2008 3:39:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis wrote:  However, while magnesium supplementation can reduce some of the consequences of mitral valve prolapse (such as abnormal heart rhythms), it does not actually protect the valve.

    Very interesting!  That would suggest that magnesium depletion may be a coincidental marker of something else that is the common cause of both heart damage and magnesium depletion. Much like in the serum cholesterol case, perhaps?

  • Anne

    2/1/2008 3:31:00 PM |

    Dear Dr Davis,

    You wrote: "Unfortunately, a heart scan will not be very helpful for the question of aortic valve disease. Yes, it can quantify calcium on the valve, but this is not a factor in determining when replacement is necessary, nor does it help track progression, unlike in coronary arteries."

    I've just found this article which suggests that the stenosis associated with bicuspid aortic valve can be reversed, and likens the progression of the calcification on the valve to that in atherosclerosis in arterial walls: http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/content/full/42/4/593

    Can you comment on this please because if it were true then the strategies employed in Track Your Plaque would work for valves too wouldn't they ?

    with best wishes,
    Anne

  • Dr. Davis

    2/1/2008 8:04:00 PM |

    Anne--

    The review you cite preceded publication of two studies that attempted to affect progression of aortic valve disease using high-dose Lipitor or Crestor. Lipitor had no effect; Crestor, 40 mg per day, did have a small effect.

    Because the Track Your Plaque program does not track aortic valve disease, I cannot say whether or not it has any effects. However, it is probably small to none--with the exception of vitamin D. I have great hopes for vitamin D's effect on slowing or reversing aortic valve disease. We are accumulating an experience with vit D, but it's too preliminary to publish.

  • Anne

    2/4/2008 8:05:00 PM |

    I saw my cardiologist today for my yearly echocardiogram. The pressure gradient across my bicuspid aortic valve has increased from 35mmHg to 38mmHg since last year which my cardiologist said was good....but he's going to refer me for an EBCT scan !  And because I have private health insurance I should be covered.....they don't do EBCT scans under the NHS here in the UK so I'm really lucky Smile

    all the best,
    Anne

  • Anne

    2/27/2008 4:38:00 PM |

    Dear Dr Davis,

    I had the results of my scan today. There's no calcification in the coronary arteries Smile But calcification showed up on the bicuspid aortic valve. My cardiologist said there's nothing I can do about that because of the turbulent blood flow, but I'm determined that I will be able to halt the calcification or reverse it and I will be watching your blog for anything you write about aortic valve disease, especially when you write about your work with vitamin D and aortic valves. I'm currently taking 4000iu D3.

    with best wishes,
    Anne

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 6:36:49 PM |

    Coronary atherosclerosis is a diffuse process that involves much of the length of the artery. It is therefore folly to believe that a 15 mm long stent has addressed the disease. This is no more a solution than to replace the faucet in your kitchen in a house with rotting pipes from the basement up.

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What kind of iodine do you take?

What kind of iodine do you take?

The results of the latest Heart Scan Blog poll are in.

204 respondents answered the question:


Do you take an iodine supplement?

The responses:

Yes, I take Iodoral, Lugol's, or SSKI
26 (12%)

Yes, I take potassium or sodium iodide
19 (9%)

Yes, I take kelp tablets or powder
64 (31%)

No, I rely on generous use of iodized salt
23 (11%)

No, I don't supplement iodine at all
66 (32%)

Isn't iodine something you put on cuts and scratches?
6 (2%)


I am heartened by the number of respondents taking iodine in some form. After all, iodine is an essential trace mineral. Without it and health suffers, often dramatically.

However, I am concerned by the percentage of people who don't supplement iodine at all: 32%. Interestingly, this is approximately the proportion of people who come to my office who also do not supplement iodine who are now showing goiters, or enlarged thyroid glands due to iodine deficiency. Goiters lead to hypothyroidism (low thyroid hormone levels), followed by hyperactive nodules, not to mention undesirable effects like weight gain, fatigue, hair loss, constipation, intolerance to cold, higher LDL cholesterol and triglycerides, and heart disease.

11% of respondents report using lots of iodized salt. This may or may not be sufficient to provide enough iodine to prevent goiter and allow normal thyroid function. The success of this strategy depends to a great extent on how often salt is purchased. Salt that sits on the shelf for more than a month is devoid of iodine, given iodine's volatility.

I am also favorably impressed by the number of people who take "serious" iodine supplements like Lugol's solution, Iodoral, or SSKI. Of course, people who read The Heart Scan Blog tend to be an unusually informed, healthy population. The 12% of people in the poll who take these forms of iodine does clearly not mean that 12% of the general population also takes them. But 12% is more than I would have predicted.

On the Track Your Plaque website, we are awaiting an interview with iodine expert, Dr. Lyn Patrick. I'm hoping for some juicy insights.

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  • Jan Jones, M.A.in Education, B.S. in Education

    6/3/2009 9:38:45 PM |

    As a follower of your blog and TRP recommendations, which I am doing, I added a small iodine supplement in a kelp tablet.  I have low thyroid and take Armour thyroid everyday.  Just recently I have read different doctors saying that taking iodine makes low thyroid worse and should not be done.  Am I inhibiting the action of the medication by taking the kelp tab?

    Jan

  • kris

    6/4/2009 1:10:56 AM |

    i was looking for (UI) urine iodine testing kit. i found the next line which didn't surprise me. the UI kit was priced,
    " Price is set at 2 USD excluding postage and tax on delivery".
    the web site adress.
    http://www.il.mahidol.ac.th/eng/index.php/resources/test-kits.html
    this is from Thailand Mahidol University.
    it also sells test kit for iodine in the kitchen salt.
    i can never imagine purchasing something in north america with 2bucks.

  • kris

    6/4/2009 1:17:42 AM |

    iodine test kit.
    i just got mixed up. the us 2$ was the price for iodine in salt testing kit not the UI testing as i wrote earlier. can you please change the info? thanks.

  • mike V

    6/4/2009 3:12:41 AM |

    Dr D.

    Can you please give us a clue as to what happens to the unstable iodide?
    Does it evaporate, or combine with some impurity to produce a non-absorbable form?

    Curious Non chemistry major

  • Anonymous

    6/4/2009 12:36:53 PM |

    After reading about iodine here, I started eating nori (dried seaweed). I don't know what catagory that puts me in, or how much iodine I am getting.

    Jeanne

  • Dr. William Davis

    6/4/2009 12:37:45 PM |

    Jan--

    That's an absurd and outdated notion.

    It is true that initial supplementation yields a paradoxic increase in TSH that subsides over a few months. But iodine is essential for health.

    Remember: Most physicians think supplements are stupid and a waste of money. If it came with a prescription and a good-looking representative, they would suddenly be prescribing it galore.

  • Dr. William Davis

    6/4/2009 12:40:06 PM |

    Hi, Mike--

    See the Track Your Plaque Special Report, Does iodine deficiency contribute to plaque growth.

    There is a graph that shows the degradation of iodine due to volatilization (evaporation). See it athttp://www.trackyourplaque.com/library/fl_03-017iodine.asp (open access).

  • Jenny

    6/4/2009 8:57:00 PM |

    Dr. Davis, I have been following this thread with interest.  After being on Synthroid for several years, I was switched to Armour Thyroid and had a bad experience with it. I decided to consult an endocrinologist rather than continue going to my PCP for my thyroid issues.  The endocrinologist DC'd the Armour, and put me back on Synthroid.  Told me  she was opposed to use of Armour and of Cytomel, and under no circumstances to take an Iodine supplement.  I have to say that I appear to be better off without the Armour, but my TSH has not come back down to an acceptable level yet--new dose increase today, so another wait for labs. I don't know what my next step should be, but in this area I am not confident enough of the facts or how they might apply to my situation to dose myself with Iodine.  It's not as clear-cut to me as the case for dosoing myself with Vitamin D.  If anyone knows of an open-minded Iodine-friendly physician in North Carolina, I would consult with her/him, but otherwise I would be afraid to do it.  I believe that some people have very bad reactions to Iodine, or is this misinformation?

  • Keenan

    6/5/2009 12:50:32 AM |

    What dose and type of supplement do you recommend, doc?

  • mike V

    6/5/2009 12:14:34 PM |

    Re: Vanishing iodide.

    Thanks for that Doc.
    I presume keeping your salt stash in a a zip-loc bag in the refrigerator would lengthen its effective life.
    I wonder if there is a problem with short lifetime on any of the supplement forms?
    MikeV

    PS What are the odds of rejuvenating aging (hypo)thyroid glands that have been successfully supplemented for many years?

    PPS I truly appreciate your work in breaking down the blood-brain barrier between 'Medicine' and intelligent nutrition/prevention.

  • Dr. William Davis

    6/5/2009 2:27:41 PM |

    Hi, Mike--

    Tightly storing iodized salt in an air-tight container would likely preserve iodine content.

    To my knowledge, the degradation of iodine-containing supplements or medications has not been formally examined. But it is probably best to keep tightly closed in a cool place to be safe.

  • Jan Jones, M.A.in Education, B.S. in Education

    6/5/2009 3:46:10 PM |

    Jenny,

    I think the bad reaction to iodine you refer to could have 2 origins.  There are people who are allergic to iodine and can have severe reactions to ingesting iodine. They don't eat shellfish and cannot have iodine dye injected for x-rays,etc.  Also, as I related to Dr.D in my post here, (see 1st post) recently I have read about drs saying patients should not take iodine if they have low thryroid because it will cause lower production of thyroid hormone.  Dr. D responded to my post here and like you, I wasn't sure about dosing myself. I will continue to take a small amount in an organic kelp tab, take my Armour thyroid everyday and get levels checked at appropriate intervals. My PCP is really only involved in testing my levels and working with me on rx meds. I make supplementation decisions based on my own research. Hard to find a dr who values an integrated approach.
    Good luck!
    Jan

  • kris

    6/5/2009 10:29:32 PM |

    jenny.
    some times the problem with adrenal gland may  give bad experience with armour. adrenal have to be fixed first before armour can be given. and some times, it is just adrenal issue and not hypothyroid issue at all.
    http://thyroid.about.com/od/drdavidderry/l/bl11.htm

    also.
    ALWAYS treat your adrenals first!
            If the adrenals are weak, replacing thyroid hormone first would most likely make a person feel much worse and may stir up 'hyperthyroid' symptoms bu increasing the metabolism and initiate an adrenal crisis. The adrenals must be strong enough to cope with the increase in metabolism. This is the most common mistake made in the medical management of these conditions.

    http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/adrenals_thyroid.html

    from personal experience the supporting "B" vitamins and magnesium must be started first before starting on dessicated hormones. but it must be decided first that if you are truly hypothyroid?
    when i started the thyroid hormones, it felt like starting up an old motor with different timing  belt. body, brain, heart and several other cells were going through adjustment of control and distribution of the energy. it took about 6 months or so for me to deiced the right dose and timing of vitamins, iodine and dessicated thyroid hormones. i felt that above dosing and timing can not be decided by a doctor. it is only the patient can figure it out with a learning curve. it is lots of work but believe me it is worth it.

  • kris

    6/5/2009 10:41:58 PM |

    jenny.
    i forgot to add the list of suggested thyroid doctors in us and canada.
    http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/

  • Keenan

    6/6/2009 4:06:12 PM |

    What do you think about Kelp and tyrosine in combination?

    NOW has a thyroid supplement that combines these. What do you think?

    http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1366

  • Anonymous

    6/8/2009 12:58:25 AM |

    Hi Mike,

    http://chem-eng.utoronto.ca/~diosady/sltstblty.html

    here is a paper on the loss of Iodine from salt.  It compares Potassium Iodide to the Iodate with the latter being more stable at higher temps and in high humidity. The two environmental factors mentioned are key to degradation and loss of Iodine from the table salt.  Not only should you store your salt in a sealed container in refrigerator, but you should ensure the salt you buy is in a vapor barrier lined package so that it is in the best condition when you purchase it.
    cheers
    Trevor

  • Anonymous

    6/12/2009 1:00:48 PM |

    Kelp warning?

    http://www.curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=657

    Researchers at the University of California/Davis found that eight out of nine kelp supplements contained abnormal levels of arsenic (Env. Health Perspectives, April, 2007).

  • very sick me

    7/6/2009 4:45:39 PM |

    Thanks for the info on the home testing kit...I live in Europe and it's sometimes hard to find these. I've been taking kelp (along with culinary practice) for iodine issues.

  • Elin

    3/13/2010 4:18:23 AM |

    People should know that genetically susceptible individuals can give themselves graves disease by taking iodine supplements such as Lugols. While supplementation may be healthful for some people, it can really ruin your life if you happen to be one of them.

  • buy jeans

    11/3/2010 10:35:21 PM |

    I am heartened by the number of respondents taking iodine in some form. After all, iodine is an essential trace mineral. Without it and health suffers, often dramatically.

  • naturalmeds

    5/9/2011 12:21:16 PM |

    Since I was diagnosed with hypothyroid disease, I started taking porcine thyroid supplements for my hormone deficiency. I feel energized now.

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Patient-napping: Yet another reason to stay clear of hospitals!

Patient-napping: Yet another reason to stay clear of hospitals!

When I started practicing medicine around 20 years ago, it was common practice to alert a physician when their patient was seen in an emergency room.

If John Smith, for example, went to the emergency room with chest pain, the physician who had an established relationship with the patient--knew their history, had managed their health and illnesses, etc.--was notified, even if the hospital ER had no relationship with the physician. It was not uncommon for the patient to then be transferred to the hospital where their own doctor practiced.

Though cumbersome at times, it preserved the relationship of the patient with their doctor.

Over the past few years, this practice has crumbled. Nowadays, hospitals and their employed physicians (and other unscrupulous physicians acting in the name of profit) "fail" to notify the physician with an established relationship.

Guess what happens? The patient all too often ends up being put through the gamut of testing and procedures.

Why? For hospital profit, of course. If failure to notify a doctor who's had a 10-year long relationship with the patient is "overlooked" or, even more commonly, it's "unsafe" to transfer the patient because the patient is too "unstable" to be transferred, then this patient becomes ripe for picking--heart catheterization, stents, bypass surgery, etc. Ten's, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars can be reaped by this deception. I call it "patient-napping".

I see this at least several times every month. As hospitals are becoming increasingly competitive, and as they put pressure on their physicians to churn patients for revenues, you're going to see more and more of this.

As always, what is your protection from this expanding influence of hospitals and the doctors too meek to stand up to them? Education and information. Arm yourself with an understanding of what is accomplished in hospitals, when you truly need them, and when you don't.

Take it one step further. At least from a heart disease standpoint--the #1 profit-maker for hospitals--aim to 1)identify your coronary plaque, then 2) seize control over your coronary plaque and reduce your risk for heart attack and heart procedures as much as humanly possible. That's the goal of the Track Your Plaque program.

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  • Anonymous

    8/22/2009 3:56:47 PM |

    I believe this happened to me when my PCP was out of town in mid-July.  His "sub" directed me to a local hospital and chose a cardiologist for me.  I had gone for upper left dull chest pain, ended up being admitted to the hospital, and underwent the gamut of heart tests - nuclear stress testing, echocardiograms, even a heart catheterization, all by doctors who did NOT know my history and had no way of finding it out.  Admission through the ER, tests for two days, while my PCP was out of the picture.  And now the cardio, who told me she would notify the PCP and endocrinologist whom I have been seeing for 5 years, has not done that.  I don't even know whether I want to see her or have my PCP recommend another cardiologist.

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